For Democrats: Which of these two positions are better "litmus tests?"
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  For Democrats: Which of these two positions are better "litmus tests?"
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Unflinching support for "safe and legal" abortion
 
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Unflinching support for labor unions in both the public and private sectors
 
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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: March 30, 2017, 10:40:10 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 11:39:18 AM »

Second option. I will not vote for any candidate in a Democratic primary unless they strongly support union rights.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 11:42:39 AM »

For me still  the second option, even while it am a strong defender of abortion rights but this is a personal question, imho.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2017, 11:51:32 AM »

Obviously the second one. Women's Rights is extremely important to me, but Abortion should not be the be all and end all issue. I would much rather vote for a moderate, pro-labor, anti-abortion politician than a pro-choice, anti-labor one.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 11:54:29 AM »

Option 1. Since I have no hope of winning the poll, I will try to win the argument: abortion is a matter of fundamental human rights, while labor is a matter of the distribution of wealth. There are other, non-union ways to help labor.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 11:55:53 AM »

As a pro-lifer, I would prefer the latter.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 12:02:20 PM »

Option 1. Since I have no hope of winning the poll, I will try to win the argument: abortion is a matter of fundamental human rights, while labor is a matter of the distribution of wealth. There are other, non-union ways to help labor.

there could be but the cold reality says otherwise.

either you need hard pro-labor laws or a strong labor movement, lose both and you get unbalanced crypto-capitalism.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 12:14:41 PM »

Option 1. Since I have no hope of winning the poll, I will try to win the argument: abortion is a matter of fundamental human rights, while labor is a matter of the distribution of wealth. There are other, non-union ways to help labor.

I think that's a pretty decent argument, but I'm hardly the person you want in your corner to win this argument among Democrats.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2017, 12:55:06 PM »

Option 1. Since I have no hope of winning the poll, I will try to win the argument: abortion is a matter of fundamental human rights, while labor is a matter of the distribution of wealth. There are other, non-union ways to help labor.
Yup. Both are important. But access to abortion is a fundamental right.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2017, 12:57:12 PM »

In principle, the second option is more palatable, because such a litmus test for abortions is an extremely close-minded enforcement of a specific interpretation of the metaphysical concept of life, but using the term "unflinching" in the context of labor rights is unproductive and is exactly what is wrong with some parts of organized labor today.
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2017, 01:21:07 PM »

Option 2, but option 1 is also important.
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2017, 01:48:07 PM »

I wouldn't make either of those a dealbreaker if the candidate was significantly better than their opponent on most other issues.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2017, 03:07:20 PM »

2nd.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2017, 03:20:22 PM »

Neither, but I'm not a Democrat so I wouldn't know
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2017, 03:29:55 PM »

Should be the second, though i recognize that for most people it is, unfortunately, the first.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2017, 08:33:30 PM »

Should be the second, though i recognize that for most people it is, unfortunately, the first.
Not a Democrat, but this.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2017, 08:41:55 PM »

Obviously the second one. Women's Rights is extremely important to me, but Abortion should not be the be all and end all issue. I would much rather vote for a moderate, pro-labor, anti-abortion politician than a pro-choice, anti-labor one.
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