Why is Buncombe County North Carolina Blue?
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« on: March 30, 2017, 06:51:45 PM »

It is a huge anomaly. It is the only county in the North Carolina Appalachia Region that is blue, with there being only one battleground county in the region called Watauga, but that comes as no surprise since out of 55,000ish residents, more than 19,000 are college students at the appalachia state university. But the rest of the area is ruby red. And buncombe county, around 250,000 people in it, centered around the city of asheville with around 85,000ish residents in it. There are no major colleges in the county, the county is also over 85% white, and not regular white, but appalachian whites who tend to vote overwhelmingly republican. Minorities only make up around 15%ish of the county, so there is not a huge minority presence there either. And even though bigger cities are more liberal, even amongst white populations who live in them,  the county essentially has a large town, and then the rest of the population is just centered around it in suburban and rural areas. It just makes absolutely no sense to me how this county trends democratic. Does anybody have any answers?
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 07:14:51 PM »

Asheville has a high concentration of hippies and "new age"-type people.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 07:17:10 PM »

Asheville has a high concentration of hippies and "new age"-type people.

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2017, 05:00:31 PM »

Asheville has a high concentration of hippies and "new age"-type people.

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You can think of it as the Appalachian answer to Boulder, CO (relative to its surroundings, not in absolute left/right terms).
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2017, 05:10:58 PM »

It's one of those places. Asheville, Austin, Athens, Ann Arbor, Madison, Boulder, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2017, 05:25:00 PM »

Asheville has a UNC right there. Besides the "New-Agers", you can count on a decent sized student population to turn out for Democrats.


 
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2017, 07:20:51 PM »

Asheville is also very artsy. Plus, being the largest city in the area helps. Warren Wilson College in Asheville was once rated one of the most liberal colleges in the nation.

Interestingly however, despite Asheville's liberalism, Buncombe voted Republican as recently as 2004.
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2017, 10:43:49 PM »

Asheville has a UNC right there. Besides the "New-Agers", you can count on a decent sized student population to turn out for Democrats.


 

UNC-Asheville is quite tiny though; less than 4,000 undergrads--not enough do much voting-wise.

OP forgot the other swing county in Western NC--Jackson. Of course, it voted for Trump but it was closer than Watauga in 2012. Blame Hillary's collapse among natives for that.
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2017, 12:01:14 PM »

Asheville has a UNC right there. Besides the "New-Agers", you can count on a decent sized student population to turn out for Democrats.


 

UNC-Asheville is quite tiny though; less than 4,000 undergrads--not enough do much voting-wise.

OP forgot the other swing county in Western NC--Jackson. Of course, it voted for Trump but it was closer than Watauga in 2012. Blame Hillary's collapse among natives for that.

Jackson County is only 10% Native, and, e.g., neighboring Haywood County that is less than 1% Native swung harder towards Trump.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2017, 03:21:04 PM »

Asheville has a UNC right there. Besides the "New-Agers", you can count on a decent sized student population to turn out for Democrats.


 

UNC-Asheville is quite tiny though; less than 4,000 undergrads--not enough do much voting-wise.

OP forgot the other swing county in Western NC--Jackson. Of course, it voted for Trump but it was closer than Watauga in 2012. Blame Hillary's collapse among natives for that.

Jackson County is only 10% Native, and, e.g., neighboring Haywood County that is less than 1% Native swung harder towards Trump.

Well, yeah. But the Democratic base in Jackson county is Western Carolina and the part of the Qualla Boundary in the county--so a decline in the Democratic vote and turnout among natives when a county is around 49-51 is of course going to hurt the Democrats. Trump actually won the Cherokee majority precinct in Jackson County, though not the Swain one. The Jackson County one is only barely native majority though--so Clinton probably still won the Cherokee there.

Haywood County is old industrial towns with some outer Asheville commuters, and traditionally has a Blue Dog constituency. Not the sort of place to like Hillary.
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2017, 06:43:23 PM »

Asheville has a UNC right there. Besides the "New-Agers", you can count on a decent sized student population to turn out for Democrats.


 

UNC-Asheville is quite tiny though; less than 4,000 undergrads--not enough do much voting-wise.

OP forgot the other swing county in Western NC--Jackson. Of course, it voted for Trump but it was closer than Watauga in 2012. Blame Hillary's collapse among natives for that.

Jackson County is only 10% Native, and, e.g., neighboring Haywood County that is less than 1% Native swung harder towards Trump.

Well, yeah. But the Democratic base in Jackson county is Western Carolina and the part of the Qualla Boundary in the county--so a decline in the Democratic vote and turnout among natives when a county is around 49-51 is of course going to hurt the Democrats. Trump actually won the Cherokee majority precinct in Jackson County, though not the Swain one. The Jackson County one is only barely native majority though--so Clinton probably still won the Cherokee there.

Haywood County is old industrial towns with some outer Asheville commuters, and traditionally has a Blue Dog constituency. Not the sort of place to like Hillary.

Point was that Jackson County largely swung for reasons other than Native Americans.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2017, 08:37:24 PM »

What explains the Clinton performance in Brevard?
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2017, 10:05:10 PM »

What explains the Clinton performance in Brevard?

IIRC it has a decent sized collage.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2017, 02:35:04 AM »

What explains the Clinton performance in Brevard?
Vampires.
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