Rahm Emanuel wants to require acceptance letters for high school graduation

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Not surprising that someone who covers up murders would do something else bad.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Rahm Emanuel is a waste of matter and space.

[Dr. Arch]

Awful.

Awful.

Awful.

[Beet]

And this was Obama's cheif of staff...

If it was Hillary's chief of staff you can bet people would use this to further castigate her but Obama largely gets a pass because he's 'likable' or something like that.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Corporate Democrats are scum of the earth.

If a Republican proposed this...there would be phony outrage from Democrats.

I'm actually outraged now.

This is effectively saying "our high schools don't give you an education that can get you through life". Which is equivalent to admitting that they're failing.

     The thing is, high schools are failing. What amazes me is when politicians just want to shunt folks along to college as the solution rather than fixing high school. What happens when a Bachelor's degree can't get you through life (a point that we are closer to than anyone would like to admit)? Will Master's and professional degrees become mandatory?

Quite possibly. It's sort of like the ultimate in grade inflation. I think we'll fall apart before we get there, though. But if we don't, yeah. Increases in productivity and wealth have to be balanced somehow. If it's not via ultimately pointless paper pushing, we'd need to do society-changing things like shorter work weeks, free public health care and (effective) education, etc.

[Rjjr77]

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This idea just sounds foolish to me.  The student debt crisis exists in part because we force on people the idea that one must have some type of formal training after high school to be successful at all.  Not all high school graduates are prepared for college and plenty of people don't want or need college.  There's blue collar work, starting your own business, pursuing a career in the arts, etc.  The only thing this guarantees is a mountain of debt for people who otherwise wouldn't feel compelled to apply at these schools.

If the city passes this, it will probably (hopefully) be blocked by the courts because acceptance letters are not required by state law.  I'm not sure how the city would enforce this, either.

There goes professional baseball and overseas professional basketball possibilities. Same with acting and other art careers.
And God forbid someone with a disability wants to graduate high school

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

And this was Obama's cheif of staff...

If it was Hillary's chief of staff you can bet people would use this to further castigate her but Obama largely gets a pass because he's 'likable' or something like that.

It's become startlingly clear in retrospect that Obama ran the American center-left into the ground.

[Associate Justice PiT]

And this was Obama's cheif of staff...

If it was Hillary's chief of staff you can bet people would use this to further castigate her but Obama largely gets a pass because he's 'likable' or something like that.

It's become startlingly clear in retrospect that Obama ran the American center-left into the ground.

     As much as it was anything Obama did, the absolute refusal by liberals to question him or his actions did not help. Sometimes you need to police your own. As a caveat, I will freely admit that Republicans routinely fail in this regard as well.

[Antonio the Sixth]

And this was Obama's cheif of staff...

If it was Hillary's chief of staff you can bet people would use this to further castigate her but Obama largely gets a pass because he's 'likable' or something like that.

It's become startlingly clear in retrospect that Obama ran the American center-left into the ground.

That might be true in an objective sense, but I can't really think of anything that another realistic 2008 Democratic candidate would have done differently (there is of course a lot that a hypothetical Democratic President could have done differently, but my point is about the group of people who actually had a say in the direction of the Democratic party at the time) that would have led to a different outcome. Pinning it on Obama specifically (as opposed to Obama as the symptom of a broader problem) would be a mistake IMO.

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And this was Obama's cheif of staff...

If it was Hillary's chief of staff you can bet people would use this to further castigate her but Obama largely gets a pass because he's 'likable' or something like that.

It's become startlingly clear in retrospect that Obama ran the American center-left into the ground.

     As much as it was anything Obama did, the absolute refusal by liberals to question him or his actions did not help. Sometimes you need to police your own. As a caveat, I will freely admit that Republicans routinely fail in this regard as well.

The primary last year showed that Democrats with power aren't much into questioning the establishment.

[Associate Justice PiT]

And this was Obama's cheif of staff...

If it was Hillary's chief of staff you can bet people would use this to further castigate her but Obama largely gets a pass because he's 'likable' or something like that.

It's become startlingly clear in retrospect that Obama ran the American center-left into the ground.

     As much as it was anything Obama did, the absolute refusal by liberals to question him or his actions did not help. Sometimes you need to police your own. As a caveat, I will freely admit that Republicans routinely fail in this regard as well.

The primary last year showed that Democrats with power aren't much into questioning the establishment.

     Indeed, Bernie Sanders shined a light on the many flaws of the Clinton campaign. Because he was not the establishment choice, the DNC undertook underhanded efforts to sabotage his campaign. Despite all that came out, the moment she secured the nomination over him everything that was said was expected to disappear and never be acknowledged again.

[Koharu]

Ugh. We need to make high school more relevant rather than keep pushing the problem further down the road. Ugh ugh ugh. This is gross. High school shouldn't be about preparing for college. It should be about developing critical thinking skills (applicable to all parts of life) and have life skills sprinkled in.

I went to an extremely rural school. We didn't have AP classes, but we had classes that incorporated filling out taxes, learning how to handle a checking account, learning about cars (and car loans), learning how to make basic meals (there was literally a class called Independent Living, and it was one of the most popular classes because it was so "easy," but it taught folks how to read recipes and cook, plus iron shirts etc etc). We also had mandatory shop classes in middle school, so everyone learned some hands-on stuff. We had required Civics in 8th grade and required Government class in high school, so we learned that stuff. Most people who graduated from my school came out as generally well-rounded individuals who were ready for life when they graduated. We also had folks who did extremely well on the ACTs and were accepted to good colleges. That's what high school should be about. Developing well-rounded individuals who are ready for life.

UGH.

[Bismarck]

This has to be one of the dumbest ideas in history.

I finally agree with Bandit on something.

[Silent Hunter]

This is up there with school uniforms as bad ideas.

What's wrong with school uniforms?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Do politicians like Rahm Emanuel actually want most people to be kept institutionalized from cradle to grave?

Possibly he just read the first chapter of Seeing Like A State and got entirely the wrong idea...

[JerryArkansas]

This is up there with school uniforms as bad ideas.

What's wrong with school uniforms?

They can be an undue burden on poor students and family's, and they get rid of the individuality that all students should have and need.

[Santander]

This is up there with school uniforms as bad ideas.

What's wrong with school uniforms?

They can be an undue burden on poor students and family's, and they get rid of the individuality that all students should have and need.

Do you have a good opinion on anything?

[Skill and Chance]

What on earth is so bad about this?  Would you rather have the high schools just jettison people out into the world with no prospects for an independent future or would you want them held accountable for each and every student's advancement potential?  The options aren't limited to 4 year college acceptance.

[Maxwell]

I was skeptical of Jesus Garcia in 2015, but I think it's time for a comeback.

Also, instead of putting more barriers to graduate high school, maybe the focus should be on improving high schools SO they think about long term prospects.

[emailking]

What on earth is so bad about this?  Would you rather have the high schools just jettison people out into the world with no prospects for an independent future or would you want them held accountable for each and every student's advancement potential?  The options aren't limited to 4 year college acceptance.

That's why I said I could see the rationale behind a requirement to explore options.

What if they want to work in a business that doesn't need advanced degrees? Or even start their own business?

[emailking]

This is up there with school uniforms as bad ideas.

What's wrong with school uniforms?

They can be an undue burden on poor students and family's, and they get rid of the individuality that all students should have and need.

Do you have a good opinion on anything?

His opinion is perfectly fine.

[Associate Justice PiT]

What on earth is so bad about this?  Would you rather have the high schools just jettison people out into the world with no prospects for an independent future or would you want them held accountable for each and every student's advancement potential?  The options aren't limited to 4 year college acceptance.

     The options are still far too limited, and the way to hold high schools accountable probably isn't holding the futures of their students for ransom. This will ruin quite a few people whose futures are already precarious and do little to actually fix the problems facing education in the United States. It is needlessly authoritarian with little hope for gain out of this.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What on earth is so bad about this?  Would you rather have the high schools just jettison people out into the world with no prospects for an independent future or would you want them held accountable for each and every student's advancement potential?  The options aren't limited to 4 year college acceptance.

Public education should, ideally, be on its own enough to prepare most people to strike out and have a halfway decent life. This pushes the lever hard on moving away from this ideal, all the while stripping at-risk kids of the remaining options that having a high school diploma gives one. In a sane political system it would be seen for the hard-right move it is.

[publicunofficial]

Corporate Democrats are scum of the earth.

[JerryArkansas]

This is up there with school uniforms as bad ideas.

What's wrong with school uniforms?

They can be an undue burden on poor students and family's, and they get rid of the individuality that all students should have and need.

Do you have a good opinion on anything?

Sorry I can't have the same opinions as an esteemed posted like yourself, I do care for how things will affect poor Americans like myself.