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« Reply #100 on: April 07, 2017, 09:31:46 AM »

I think an additional reason for the strikes was to send a message to China about North Korea (and indeed about China and Taiwan). Its a way of saying don't mess with me. As a demonstration of raw power it should also help his poll numbers.
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« Reply #101 on: April 07, 2017, 09:36:02 AM »

I think an additional reason for the strikes was to send a message to China about North Korea (and indeed about China and Taiwan). Its a way of saying don't mess with me. As a demonstration of raw power it should also help his poll numbers.

yeah, reassuring classical republicans that the GOP is still not a party of doves.

not that this is a problem for trump in the short term (most of those live in states which are red anyway) but it brings political capital and opens new alliances.
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« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2017, 09:36:16 AM »

This is a show of strength to increase his popularity and replenish his political capital.

This, if Trump had high approval ratings he wouldn't have done this.
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« Reply #103 on: April 07, 2017, 09:52:54 AM »

Wow. Interesting that so many Dems are happy with Trump being "tough".

Well, well, well... I hope it will kill a Trump-Russia-Collaboration narrative and give a boost to Trump approval rating. Then Trump & Sessions can also be "tough" on domestic policies. Bloodthirsty Dems deserved it.

So TRUMP does something you don't like and you blame the opposition? Absurd. Besides, if the Dems opposed this you would be saying we were hypocritical for supporting a candidate who wanted the same thing, and only opposed it because he's Trump and he can't win with us no matter what he does yada yada. Can't win.

Anyway, this was a nothingburger just for show as the pre-attack warnings proved. It did virtually nothing.
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« Reply #104 on: April 07, 2017, 10:28:09 AM »

I think an additional reason for the strikes was to send a message to China about North Korea (and indeed about China and Taiwan). Its a way of saying don't mess with me. As a demonstration of raw power it should also help his poll numbers.

If anything it could suggest that the President is distracted. Consider this: the Soviet Union took over the three Baltic republics in 1940 as France fell to the Devil's Reich.

Any solution to warmongering by North Korea requires coordination with North Korea's frenemy China. North Korean leadership has more cause to fear China than any other country, including the USA or South Korea. 
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« Reply #105 on: April 07, 2017, 10:40:28 AM »

Yes, something should have been done years ago. Only thing is I supported Obama when he wanted to go in and my political views don't change depending on who's in power.

Yeah, honestly I think that opposing intervention then but supporting it now is not a position that can really be justified.
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« Reply #106 on: April 07, 2017, 10:45:05 AM »

Yes, something should have been done years ago. Only thing is I supported Obama when he wanted to go in and my political views don't change depending on who's in power.

Amen!  Also, for better or for worse, we effectively ARE the "world's sheriff," and it's been that way for a long time.
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« Reply #107 on: April 07, 2017, 10:46:02 AM »

At the moment, I'm leaning towards being in support of them.  Say what you will, it was a very Reagan-like response....which I think is a good thing.  Peace through strength.  
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« Reply #108 on: April 07, 2017, 10:46:45 AM »

the alt-right now officially #STANDSWITHASSAD!

https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/850208440899182592
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« Reply #109 on: April 07, 2017, 10:51:01 AM »

Meh, at least the alt-right is consistently awful, I'll give them that.
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« Reply #110 on: April 07, 2017, 10:54:21 AM »

Can't believe I'm agreeing with Klartext and Pete.

as long as your reasoning is not "MUH, all islamists but my lovely, beautiful, flawless crypto-secular genocidial autocrat of choice".

Nope. It's "muh disgusting regime change hyper-aggressive U.S. foreign policy destroying our economy, killing our soldiers, and creating even more problems for us in the Middle East."

So Arch, let me ask you this....what would happen if we were to do nothing? I'll tell you....it would be highly likely that Assad would launch another chemical attack.  It's the schoolyard bully mentality....as long as we continue to do nothing, they will become bolder, and launch deadlier and deadlier attacks.  

Assad (not to mention ISIS) wants to see how much he can get away with before we take action.  That's why I get so distressed at our inaction over ISIS. If we continue to do nothing but condemn terrorists with mere words, their chaos and terror will spread, and attacks like the one in Stockholm today will continue.  We've got to do something, and do it now.  
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« Reply #111 on: April 07, 2017, 10:55:40 AM »


That's one dingbat commentator, not everyone on the right.  Stop making broad generalizations. 
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« Reply #112 on: April 07, 2017, 10:59:38 AM »


That's one dingbat commentator, not everyone on the right.  Stop making broad generalizations. 

You're the one making broad generalizations.  Alt Right =/= the right.  In fact, it'd be in the right's best interests to shed all association with the Alt Right that it can.
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« Reply #113 on: April 07, 2017, 11:00:24 AM »


That's one dingbat commentator, not everyone on the right.  Stop making broad generalizations. 
Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannapolous, Mike Cernovich, etc.
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« Reply #114 on: April 07, 2017, 11:01:15 AM »


That's one dingbat commentator, not everyone on the right.  Stop making broad generalizations. 

alt-right not "right".

and i feel pretty good associating the frog friends with spencer, to be honest.

the shock yesterday was "felt" all over social networks and millions of "pepes" and "cap avatars" felt betrayed.
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« Reply #115 on: April 07, 2017, 11:03:10 AM »


That's one dingbat commentator, not everyone on the right.  Stop making broad generalizations. 
Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannapolous, Mike Cernovich, etc.
Those are characters, not serious commentators.
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« Reply #116 on: April 07, 2017, 11:04:17 AM »


That's one dingbat commentator, not everyone on the right.  Stop making broad generalizations. 
Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannapolous, Mike Cernovich, etc.
Those are characters, not serious commentators.
"Serious"
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« Reply #117 on: April 07, 2017, 11:13:43 AM »

Great, so we're back to the pre-Iraq foreign policy actions and discussions. How is this even possible? Good grief.
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« Reply #118 on: April 07, 2017, 11:19:59 AM »
« Edited: April 07, 2017, 11:28:04 AM by ApatheticAustrian »

Lindsey Graham: "I think there's a side to President Trump that's very much like Ronald Reagan."
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/850381798093848577

is this gas-lighting or euphoria?

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Graham, who wants ground troops in Syria, said he told Trump this was "the first step" in a journey. "He said yeah, I believe you're right."
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/850382556130357248



Graham emphasizes he wants to take out Assad's air force. Says he doesn't expect Russia to actually fight back
https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/850380561164185606
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« Reply #119 on: April 07, 2017, 11:31:35 AM »

Lindsey Graham: "I think there's a side to President Trump that's very much like Ronald Reagan."
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/850381798093848577

is this gas-lighting or euphoria?

even better:


Graham, who wants ground troops in Syria, said he told Trump this was "the first step" in a journey. "He said yeah, I believe you're right."
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/850382556130357248



Graham emphasizes he wants to take out Assad's air force. Says he doesn't expect Russia to actually fight back
https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/850380561164185606

This warmonger should be primaried next time
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« Reply #120 on: April 07, 2017, 11:33:53 AM »



Mr. President you bravely exposed the lies and treason of the Iraq War and now you let these Ziocons & KUSHNER You to strike Syria not ISIS?
https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/850162512834297856

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« Reply #121 on: April 07, 2017, 11:54:05 AM »

I've said it once and I'll say it again, these f**kers are spineless bastards.
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« Reply #122 on: April 07, 2017, 12:10:03 PM »

Absolutely. Assad is a murderous tyrant who gassed his own people-he must be punished. If the US failed to act as Obama did in 2013, it would show the US and international law are toothless and have no bark to their bite. While intervention has risks, continuing the slaughter in Syria and allowing Assad to gas his people unabated would be a far bigger risk. Assad invited the strike through his own actions. This should have been done years ago.

This is my view exactly. The only thing I'd add is that this strike was perfectly justifiable under international law. An attack on Syria based on responsibility to protect is not aggression; just the opposite. All countries have an obligation to take any action necessary to stop a jus cogens offense and if the administration is arguing that this small attack is all that is necessary to stop the further use of chemical weapons then there's no problem with it.
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« Reply #123 on: April 07, 2017, 12:17:37 PM »

no. pretty enraging.
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« Reply #124 on: April 07, 2017, 12:20:13 PM »

The United States should not involve itself in more foreign entanglements, especially in the Middle East.  No, I do not support it, and I did not support intervention when Obama was president.
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