Which states have the worst state Democratic Party?
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OneJ
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« on: April 07, 2017, 08:14:52 PM »

I'm interested to know after seeing a couple of specific states (especially Alabama) getting a reputation on Atlas.

Right now, I know I haven't studied enough on enough states to make my decision.

But anyways, let's begin!
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 08:16:42 PM »

Ideologically (for me)? One of the west coast states, probably.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 08:17:50 PM »

Structurally? Essentially every state where the Democratic Party is extinct, so basically half of them. At least in Alabama they have somewhat of a floor, where in Wyoming, a Democrat could really get 10% of the vote in a race.

Ideologically? The fact that Jim Justice is able to pose as a Democrat kind of answers that question.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 08:19:05 PM »

In my adult lifetime, Florida has always had the worst Democratic party (call it the curse of 2000), and I'm not even a DWS hater.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 08:24:11 PM »

Illinois
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2017, 08:30:26 PM »

Minnesota.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2017, 08:45:32 PM »

California's Democratic Party is basically the epitome of Silicon Valley faux-progressivism.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2017, 08:51:11 PM »


The thread is about the worst, not the best. Wink

Anyway, for my answer, maybe Oklahoma.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2017, 11:09:33 PM »

My home state of Illinois has got to be close to the top. Dems had over a decade of near-complete domination of the state's government, and what progressive aims have they achieved? The only things they have managed to do have been royally screwing our pension system during Blagojevich's term and (by the skin of their teeth and while at the same time creating a huge rift within the party between socially conservative black Dems and the rest of the party) legalizing gay marriage in 2014. They also seem good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory (see picking Alexi Gianoullias, a corrupt banker, to run in 2010, a year when bank bailouts and Corrupt politics were already fresh in Illinois voters' minds). And they're not even good at gerrymandering.

But Florida has them beat. No question about that! The best candidate they could come up with to take on the unpopular Rick Scott was retread Charlie Crist? Really? Not to mention all the other statewide races they've lost even though they're supposedly at the forefront of demographic change.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2017, 09:23:36 AM »

Ideologically? The fact that Jim Justice is able to pose as a Democrat kind of answers that question.

Oh boy, now you've triggered RINO Tom.

No ?
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2017, 09:54:23 AM »

When you consider the competitiveness of the state, FL.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2017, 01:20:18 AM »

When you consider the competitiveness of the state, FL.

Yes, and Ohio is pretty bad too.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2017, 01:53:56 AM »

Oklahoma, by far. Barely functioning as an entity at this point.
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2017, 02:36:35 AM »

When answering this sort of question (if you're looking at "worst" party in terms of organization and competence), I look at the state's political context. For instance, it's hard for me to say that state parties in Alabama or Oklahoma are specifically incompetent, given how unlikely it is for Democrats to win statewide there. The Kentucky Democrats used to be a decent counterexample to this.

Is poor organization and incompetency enough to explain some of the state party's losses? I think it certainly can in cases like Florida and Ohio, and maybe even Wisconsin, which is why I picked those.
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2017, 03:20:40 AM »

Alabama has the most racist.
Florida has the worst performaces compared to PVI, plus DWS has been a terrible influence there.
Washington has the most out of touch with its own voters.
Illinois, NY, NJ, and Louisiana have all had significant corruption issues.
SC had Alvin Greene get nominated.


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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2017, 03:45:03 AM »

In terms of consistently performing well below potential, it's easily Florida.
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2017, 08:09:36 AM »

Tennessee, as it's pretty much nonexistent.
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2017, 08:18:33 AM »

Kentucky has one of the few that deliberately refuses to run candidates for winnable seats. Their argument is that by running candidates, they might cause Republicans to show up and vote in other races.

A couple years ago, they let Republicans run unopposed for a major county judge-executive race, which was an open seat.
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2017, 08:26:43 AM »

Depends on how you frame the question really, Florida is horrible given the partisan lean of the state at nominating good candidates.  Arkansas was inept with the total collapse of the party from 2008 to 2012.  On purely ideological background some of the southern parties still try to make move to the rural whites and have at time very conservative platforms. 
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2017, 11:58:52 AM »

If I told you that of the two major parties in Ohio, since 2009 one has had 5 state chairs, and one has had two? youd probably think the latter would be more successful.
The Ohio democrat party has been in shambles for 7 years now.
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2017, 12:01:21 AM »

Ohio and the Dakotas. Particularly in the Dakotas, the Dems stooped from holding both Senate seats and the at-large house seat to being ditched by high double digits.
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2017, 12:08:51 AM »

Tennessee, as it's pretty much nonexistent.

Yeah, they nominated some guy Charlie Brown for governor in 2014, who wound up being just as conservative as Bill Haslam on many issues and ran almost now campaign.  Haslam won every county in the state, even with many conservatives abstaining due to a weird ballot initiative loophole that allows you to effectively double your "yes" vote on the amendment if you don't vote in the gubernatorial election.
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2017, 12:12:39 AM »

Kentucky has one of the few that deliberately refuses to run candidates for winnable seats. Their argument is that by running candidates, they might cause Republicans to show up and vote in other races.

A couple years ago, they let Republicans run unopposed for a major county judge-executive race, which was an open seat.

You are likt the Anti-Extreme Republican, close to -10 score while ER has around +10 !
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