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« on: April 11, 2017, 11:43:38 AM »

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I thought NATO was 'obsolete'?
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2017, 11:48:01 AM »

well done. Smiley

big difference btw:

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2017, 11:52:21 AM »

Trump voters got ultra cucked. They got an uglier and less competent W. Bush.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2017, 11:59:41 AM »


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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2017, 12:06:02 PM »

Can't honestly criticize this decision.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2017, 12:09:31 PM »

Putin is going to be furious
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2017, 12:13:47 PM »

Can't honestly criticize this decision.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 12:15:11 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2017, 12:18:30 PM by ApatheticAustrian »


we are independent since we got ...eh,....our independence back 1955...buffer state between west and east during the cold war.

mostly an anachronism today and bla but no party would get away with supporting a pro-nato stance.

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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2017, 12:17:54 PM »


You are missing the point.
vladimir trump, the first Russian President of the USA, is a major flip-flopper.
His says one thing today, and tomorrow, it's completely the opposite.
What a clown !
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2017, 12:18:49 PM »

I don't oppose this.  Macedonia should also be allowed to join, but the Greeks won't allow it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2017, 12:21:21 PM »


Austria was reestablished after the WWII as a neutral state. Of course being a EU member effectively precludes a Swiss-style neutrality, but they stays away from military alliances.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2017, 12:23:55 PM »

I'd support this if there were some way to also suspend Turkey and possibly Hungary. (I've heard some terrible things about the government of Lithuania too but I don't know enough to comment.)
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 12:34:04 PM »

All we need is Bosnia and Cyprus and the European Mediterranean is ours!
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2017, 12:48:25 PM »

Why can't NATO just make an agreement to defend Montenegro as a non-member state?
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2017, 12:53:28 PM »

Why can't NATO just make an agreement to defend Montenegro as a non-member state?

When the chips are down, you'll come to appreciate the 15 montenegrins who stand and fight with us. Although usually the little countries just send auxillary troops, so  just wait until the 15 montenegrins operate our radio equipment for us while we fight.
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2017, 12:57:40 PM »

Trump loves the 'negro community
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2017, 01:03:59 PM »

Can't honestly criticize this decision.
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2017, 01:04:07 PM »

All we need is Bosnia and Cyprus and the European Mediterranean is ours!

You have a better chance of getting Kosovo to join. As long as Bosnia is 40% Serb, they will never join NATO without threatening the stability of the country
Kosovo is not a sovereign state.
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2017, 01:10:29 PM »

I mean, maybe this will piss off some of the most anti-globalist Trump supporters, but I don't see what the big deal is here.
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2017, 01:14:45 PM »

All we need is Bosnia and Cyprus and the European Mediterranean is ours!

You have a better chance of getting Kosovo to join. As long as Bosnia is 40% Serb, they will never join NATO without threatening the stability of the country
Kosovo is not a sovereign state.

Yeah, admitting a partially-recognized country without a UN membership wouldn't be possible. IIRC even some NATO countries doesn't recognize Kosovo.
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2017, 03:28:10 PM »

I kind of wish they had a referendum, but ah well.

I'd support this if there were some way to also suspend Turkey and possibly Hungary. (I've heard some terrible things about the government of Lithuania too but I don't know enough to comment.)

Unfortunately due to its geographic location and control over the Bosphorus, Turkey is automatically one of the most important NATO members. I doubt it will ever be suspended.
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2017, 03:36:06 PM »

I kind of wish they had a referendum, but ah well.

I'd support this if there were some way to also suspend Turkey and possibly Hungary. (I've heard some terrible things about the government of Lithuania too but I don't know enough to comment.)

Unfortunately due to its geographic location and control over the Bosphorus, Turkey is automatically one of the most important NATO members. I doubt it will ever be suspended.

It's unfortunate indeed Erdogan is in the position to be courted both by NATO and Putin.
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2017, 05:59:07 PM »

All we need is Bosnia and Cyprus and the European Mediterranean is ours!

You have a better chance of getting Kosovo to join. As long as Bosnia is 40% Serb, they will never join NATO without threatening the stability of the country
Kosovo is not a sovereign state.

America foreign policy is that Kosovo is a sovereign state, and if america is first, then america is right.

Not that it matters since our largest military base in Europe, Camp Bondsteel, is already in Kosovo.
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2017, 07:10:07 PM »


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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2017, 11:58:17 PM »


In the meantime, nine NATO and EU countries (including Sweden and Finland) are working more closely together to combat the Russian threat:

9 EU, NATO nations set up center to fight hybrid threats

Sweden and Finland need to make the final jump, and join NATO already. 
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