The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread

[Brittain33]

They had seven years to come up with a coherent ~conservative health care solution~. SEVEN ING YEARS OF CONSTANTLY RUNNING ON OPPOSING THE ACA. Is this turkey all they're capable of?! Is it all they want to be capable of?! Why the hell didn't they prepare a halfway acceptable bill two, or five, or seven years ago that they could pass when they got a Republican trifecta?! Why didn't they spend any of that seven years coming up with something that wouldn't cause people to die in a heap if passed?

Any healthcare solution that does not involve more government will be met with accusations of letting people die.

Which is why it's unfortunate that conservatives campaigned against Obamacare by claiming that fewer people would die, i.e. "stop the death panels" and "coverage isn't good enough." Republicans set this trap for themselves. 

[Gass3268]

Not providing adequate medical care for the sick (those with pre-existing conditions), of limited means, is shocking to the conscience, and voting for this evil bill I hope ends the careers of many. I am just amazed how this is evolving. Anyway, if my congressman Faso votes for this, he's done. He voted for Ryancare and got burned. We shall see if he learned his lesson.

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[Brittain33]

Ok, I guess it passes and then if it dies in the Senate, all the moderate reps say they were shocked when the CBO score came out and showed later it was a bad bill.

[The_Doctor]

Ok, I guess it passes and then if it dies in the Senate, all the moderate reps say they were shocked when the CBO score came out and showed later it was a bad bill.

Pretty much my sentiment of what happens at this point.

[Gass3268]

Ok, I guess it passes and then if it dies in the Senate, all the moderate reps say they were shocked when the CBO score came out and showed later it was a bad bill.

Pretty much my sentiment of what happens at this point.

Or they pass a bill that rips out all the stuff that got the Freedom Caucus.

[Confused Democrat]

Ok, I guess it passes and then if it dies in the Senate, all the moderate reps say they were shocked when the CBO score came out and showed later it was a bad bill.

You forgot the part where those "moderates" get voted out in 2018.

[Klartext89]

GOP has the votes!

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/860154277003767811

Pass the Bill! Trump wins again!

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Assuming all time for debate is used, the vote will be in around 25 minutes...if it's not pulled.

[SoLongAtlas]

CNN reporting that the Rocky theme song was played and Ryan held up pictures of Patton and gave moto quotes to motivate the Reps. Kinda hilarious if it wasn't tragic to pass this POS.

[The_Doctor]

GOP has the votes!

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/860154277003767811

Pass the Bill! Trump wins again!

Still has to pass the Senate. Then reconciliation (which I doubt you knew about until I told you to research it).  I noticed you were awfully quiet until this happened.

Do get 'round to a non 14 year old defense of the bill when you can. I'm sure we're eagerly waiting for your nuanced defense of the law. Something tells me you haven't even researched the law until I asked you about what you knew about healthcare in America.

As I said about Marty a lot of Trumpkins have a poor grasp of policy. Your posts seem to be in line with that.

Also um: Trumpy hasn't had a legislative victory before this one.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Can't believe they want to hand the dems this big tp heading into 2018

[7,052,770]

So when will get a CBO report? Next week?

[The Other Castro]

Last minute guess: Passes 218-212 (4 vacancies, 1 not voting).

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Around 6 minutes of debate time remaining.

[GeorgiaModerate]

So when will get a CBO report? Next week?

I saw one estimate that it would take 2 weeks.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

While normal debate time has expired, the chair has announced that the members will now be allowed to use the remaining debate time that existed when the bill was pulled several weeks ago. So another 45 minutes or so until the vote.

[The Other Castro]

Mike Coffman is a NO, Dave Reichert is a NO, Mark Amodei is a YES.

[Matty]

Mike Coffman says he's a NO, Mark Amodei is a YES.

Leadership likely let coffman make that call, considering he is very vulnerable in 2018

[KingSweden]

Mike Coffman is a NO, Dave Reichert is a NO, Mark Amodei is a YES.

Amodei is almost certainly retiring. Interesting Reichert is a no

[Gass3268]

So when will get a CBO report? Next week?

We don't need to worry about silly things like that. This is the party of responsibility!

But it will be necessary in the Senate.

[7,052,770]

Looks like it's gonna happen. I feel terrible for people that will hit their lifetime maximums and have to declare bankruptcy/die.

[MasterJedi]

New numbers show their isn't enough money so 95% of the people in the at risk pools will have to go without: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/gops-obamacare-replacement-bill-would-protect-just-5-percent-of-people-with-pre-existing-conditions-analysis.html

Hope you're part of the 5% of you're done.

[Gass3268]

Sick son of a bitch GOP are playing the theme song to Rocky in anticipation of the vote

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- The Hill

Does she forget she represents a district that Clinton won by 5 points?

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Mike Coffman is a NO, Dave Reichert is a NO, Mark Amodei is a YES.

Coffman and Reichert were on the "lean yes" list, so this hurts Rs. Currently, based on https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/860154277003767811 plus the post above, we are at 17 No, 3 Lean No, 9 Undecided, 13 Lean Yes. Assuming leans stay put and all members vote, the current status of the vote is 209-213, and republicans need to win the undecided vote 7-2 to pass this by one vote.

[The Other Castro]

216 needed to pass, only 21 defections allowed (would have been 22, but one Republican isn't voting due to a family emergency or something).