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« Reply #225 on: May 04, 2017, 11:49:30 AM »

was obamacare important for nevada?
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« Reply #226 on: May 04, 2017, 11:50:16 AM »

Mike Coffman is a NO, Dave Reichert is a NO, Mark Amodei is a YES.

Coffman and Reichert were on the "lean yes" list, so this hurts Rs. Currently, based on https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/860154277003767811 plus the post above, we are at 17 No, 3 Lean No, 9 Undecided, 13 Lean Yes. Assuming leans stay put and all members vote, the current status of the vote is 209-213, and republicans need to win the undecided vote 7-2 to pass this by one vote.

These were leadership approved Nay votes.
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« Reply #227 on: May 04, 2017, 11:51:01 AM »

Republican members of Congress blatantly lying about effects on those with pre-existing conditions right now on the floor.
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« Reply #228 on: May 04, 2017, 11:52:43 AM »

i love it, how all the criticism about Ocare is coming back with a grudge and all faults are repeated in even worse ways.

who is pushing this madness?
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« Reply #229 on: May 04, 2017, 11:54:06 AM »

PredictIt odds just dropped 20%

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« Reply #230 on: May 04, 2017, 11:56:44 AM »

Didn't Clinton win Amodei's district in Nevada? Ditto McSally in Arizona. These are fast growing Latino districts that have substantial amounts of citizens negatively affected by AHCA.

Senate odds are steep, since there will be a CBO score and whatever comes back to the House will be vastly more moderate… if it clears the Senate. Remember a ton of Republicans are up in 2020, when the expansion ends in 2019.
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« Reply #231 on: May 04, 2017, 11:57:06 AM »

i love it, how all the criticism about Ocare is coming back with a grudge and all faults are repeated in even worse ways.

who is pushing this madness?

The people who want to cut taxes. They need this bill, stripping Medicaid, in order to be able to pass the tax cuts in reconciliation. The motivations for voting for this bill have nothing to do with healthcare at all.
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« Reply #232 on: May 04, 2017, 11:58:06 AM »

Didn't Clinton win Amodei's district in Nevada? Ditto McSally in Arizona. These are fast growing Latino districts that have substantial amounts of citizens negatively affected by AHCA.

Senate odds are steep, since there will be a CBO score and whatever comes back to the House will be vastly more moderate… if it clears the Senate. Remember a ton of Republicans are up in 2020, when the expansion ends in 2019.

She didn't win Amodei's, but she did win McSally's.
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« Reply #233 on: May 04, 2017, 11:58:41 AM »

i love it, how all the criticism about Ocare is coming back with a grudge and all faults are repeated in even worse ways.

who is pushing this madness?

Trump, Ryan, and the Freedom Caucus.

The Tuesday Group is made up of a bunch of spineless cowards. Republicans will pay in 2018.
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« Reply #234 on: May 04, 2017, 12:00:34 PM »

If there is seriously going to be 1 R not voting on this, we could get a vote of 215-215, which would be hilarious.
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« Reply #235 on: May 04, 2017, 12:06:03 PM »

Mike Coffman is a NO, Dave Reichert is a NO, Mark Amodei is a YES.

Amodei is almost certainly retiring. Interesting Reichert is a no

Yup. If Angle is the nominee, Republicans will sweat.
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« Reply #236 on: May 04, 2017, 12:07:43 PM »

Passing this bill by one vote would be great. Every single Republican gets hit with "cast the deciding vote to murder sick poor children" ads.
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« Reply #237 on: May 04, 2017, 12:12:53 PM »

The chair needs to take a chill pill.
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« Reply #238 on: May 04, 2017, 12:13:53 PM »



Last minute changes:

Jaime Herrera Beutler: NO --> Lean NO

Garret Graves: Unlisted --> Lean YES
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« Reply #239 on: May 04, 2017, 12:15:18 PM »

Reichert was smart to switch to no. Herrera-Beutler would be an idiot to vote for this bill.
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« Reply #240 on: May 04, 2017, 12:16:10 PM »

would this really go to the floor, if they weren't sure about the outcome?

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« Reply #241 on: May 04, 2017, 12:18:51 PM »

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« Reply #242 on: May 04, 2017, 12:19:14 PM »

Is the vote at 1:30?
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« Reply #243 on: May 04, 2017, 12:23:58 PM »

Ah, Trump won NV-02 52-39%. Amodei was a false no. David Young won in a district that backed Trump by just 3 points though which makes me wonder why he flipped. Does he assume Iowa is getting redder?

Beutler is from liberal Washington. But Trump won her district 50-42% so I'm guessing East Washington so she may feel safe to vote yes.
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« Reply #244 on: May 04, 2017, 12:24:30 PM »



Another change to Matt Fuller's whip:

Will Hurd: Unlisted --> Lean Yes
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« Reply #245 on: May 04, 2017, 12:26:29 PM »

Pelosi:
"Someone asked me, 'Why dont you stop them?' B/c we want them to define themselves ...They will walk this plank for nothing"
https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/860166603446652928
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« Reply #246 on: May 04, 2017, 12:28:17 PM »

Hurd is from a district that went Clinton narrowly and has a history of going back and forth. It borders Mexico. Hurd also won by just a point in both '14 and '16. If he votes yes he could become an even higher priority for Dems to knock off. 66% Hispanic.

Still think Curbelo is a no as will Issa and Knight. This will be very close.
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« Reply #247 on: May 04, 2017, 12:28:45 PM »

New York Times Live Vote Tracker
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« Reply #248 on: May 04, 2017, 12:29:14 PM »

Rape and Sexual Assault Could be Pre-Existing Conditions
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« Reply #249 on: May 04, 2017, 12:29:16 PM »

Renacci on CNN saying how he would vote for it and it gives more freedom to the states (to cut people off) and I'm running for governor too all while dithering. Man this guy is a worm if I ever saw one.
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