The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread

[Klartext89]

217-213 (1 abstention, 4 vacancies) wouldn't be with 1 vote majority. Would be ok.

[Dr. Arch]

All left-wing arguments against GOP bills now boil down to:
1. It will kill children
OR
2. It will make it too difficult to kill children

POTUS TRUMP TWEET:

I am watching the Democrats trying to defend the "you can keep you doctor, you can keep your plan & premiums will go down" ObamaCare lie."

You're a fool if you think that only the left has a problem with this monstrosity.

[The Other Castro]

Leigh Ann Caldwell @LACaldwellDC
A Source leaving whip Scalise's office predicts it passes with 217 leaving no margin of error #gophealthcare

So it will pass by 1 vote?

That's the plan, since passage with 216 votes makes it so that every Republican cast the "deciding vote".

[krazen1211]

The vast majority of hard working American middle class families will pay less - that's the only thing that really cares and the reason why I can only smile when reading how bad this will be for the GOP in 2018. Forget about it. Obamacare is a failure, everyone knows it, even Dems in the Debate had to aknowledge that. Opposition to AHCA is only based to the typical media and Dem #FakeNews and hyperboles. As soon as the vast majority of people is seeing that they save money and are better off, the approval will get over 50%.

And now pass that bill! With a bit more than 1 vote...

2015: Trump won't win the primary
2016: Trump won't win New Hampshire
2016: Trump has a ceiling
2016: BluewallBluewallBluewallBluewallBluewall
2016: Waaaaah!
2017: This bill won't pass the House.
2017: This bill won't pass the Senate.

Hmmm.....

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

First of several votes. First one is HR 2192 - To amend the Public Health Service Act to eliminate the non-application of certain State waiver provisions to Members of Congress and congressional staff.

THIS IS NOT THE MAIN VOTE.

[Confused Democrat]

The vast majority of hard working American middle class families will pay less - that's the only thing that really cares and the reason why I can only smile when reading how bad this will be for the GOP in 2018. Forget about it. Obamacare is a failure, everyone knows it, even Dems in the Debate had to aknowledge that. Opposition to AHCA is only based to the typical media and Dem #FakeNews and hyperboles. As soon as the vast majority of people is seeing that they save money and are better off, the approval will get over 50%.

And now pass that bill! With a bit more than 1 vote...

2015: Trump won't win the primary
2016: Trump won't win New Hampshire
2016: Trump has a ceiling
2016: BluewallBluewallBluewallBluewallBluewall
2016: Waaaaah!
2017: This bill won't pass the House.
2017: This bill won't pass the Senate.

Hmmm.....

This is like the definition of #analysis

[ApatheticAustrian]

this won't pass the senate but they could ofc push it through by making reconciliation into magic sauce to solve ANYTHING.

this would give democrats ENDLESS power.

[The Other Castro]

Quoting Klartext89 in responses kind of defeats the purpose of the ignore button.

[publicunofficial]

The vast majority of hard working American middle class families will pay less - that's the only thing that really cares and the reason why I can only smile when reading how bad this will be for the GOP in 2018. Forget about it. Obamacare is a failure, everyone knows it, even Dems in the Debate had to aknowledge that. Opposition to AHCA is only based to the typical media and Dem #FakeNews and hyperboles. As soon as the vast majority of people is seeing that they save money and are better off, the approval will get over 50%.

And now pass that bill! With a bit more than 1 vote...

2015: Trump won't win the primary
2016: Trump won't win New Hampshire
2016: Trump has a ceiling
2016: BluewallBluewallBluewallBluewallBluewall
2016: Waaaaah!
2017: This bill won't pass the House.
2017: This bill won't pass the Senate.

Hmmm.....

Finally, the forum's two greatest minds interacting.

[The_Doctor]

GOP has the votes!

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/860154277003767811

Pass the Bill! Trump wins again!

Still has to pass the Senate. Then reconciliation (which I doubt you knew about until I told you to research it).  I noticed you were awfully quiet until this happened.

Do get 'round to a non 14 year old defense of the bill when you can. I'm sure we're eagerly waiting for your nuanced defense of the law. Something tells me you haven't even researched the law until I asked you about what you knew about healthcare in America.

As I said about Marty a lot of Trumpkins have a poor grasp of policy. Your posts seem to be in line with that.

Also um: Trumpy hasn't had a legislative victory before this one.

Sorry but neither do I take you seriously (after the Macron/LePen nonsense from you in the FRance thread) nor do I take lections from you. In my eyes, you simply have no clue what is going on and I'm by far better informed than you about Reconciliation. But I can wait, won't last long and I was right again. Like in March ;-)

1. “Lectures.” if you're going to try to respond at least know your English. I don't know enough German aside from Mein Kampf
2. I have voted for far more Republicans than you have - including the last 3 GOP nominees before Trump. Definitely not a liberal at all. Plus I've voted for GOP Congresses since 2004. I definitely believe I am more conservative than your alt right nonsense. Should I go on? Including my Santorum 2012 vote? Believe me I've been backing the Right longer than you ever conceived of the alt right.
3. The same March vote where the vote was cancelled?

Lastly nice cop out of actually defending the bill which you presumably don't know about. I see like all Trumpkins you're too afraid to have an intellectual debate and will run away shortly when things turn bad for the GOP.

[The Other Castro]

Bill that would require lawmakers to be a part of the law passes.

[Technocracy Timmy]

The vast majority of hard working American middle class families will pay less - that's the only thing that really cares and the reason why I can only smile when reading how bad this will be for the GOP in 2018. Forget about it. Obamacare is a failure, everyone knows it, even Dems in the Debate had to aknowledge that. Opposition to AHCA is only based to the typical media and Dem #FakeNews and hyperboles. As soon as the vast majority of people is seeing that they save money and are better off, the approval will get over 50%.

And now pass that bill! With a bit more than 1 vote...

2015: Trump won't win the primary
2016: Trump won't win New Hampshire
2016: Trump has a ceiling
2016: BluewallBluewallBluewallBluewallBluewall
2016: Waaaaah!
2017: This bill won't pass the House.
2017: This bill won't pass the Senate.

Hmmm.....

Finally, the forum's two greatest minds interacting.

[SoLongAtlas]

From a Twitter post in the #AHCA search

"Cases upon cases of beer just rolled into the Capitol on a cart covered in a sheet. Spotted Bud Light peeking out from the sheet"

Figures they would celebrate with the worst of all "beer" but celebrate they will! Disgusting.

[afleitch]

They had seven years to come up with a coherent ~conservative health care solution~. SEVEN ING YEARS OF CONSTANTLY RUNNING ON OPPOSING THE ACA. Is this turkey all they're capable of?! Is it all they want to be capable of?! Why the hell didn't they prepare a halfway acceptable bill two, or five, or seven years ago that they could pass when they got a Republican trifecta?! Why didn't they spend any of that seven years coming up with something that wouldn't cause people to die in a heap if passed?

Word.

[publicunofficial]

From a Twitter post in the #AHCA search

"Cases upon cases of beer just rolled into the Capitol on a cart covered in a sheet. Spotted Bud Light peeking out from the sheet"

Figures they would celebrate with the worst of all "beer" but celebrate they will! Disgusting.

Man. I know I say this a lot, but I really hate Republicans. Sometimes I forget how much I want them all to be diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease.

[Barnes]

By the way, just remember that the reconciliation process is a pain in the ass. If any provision of a bill is ruled to be out of order under the rule, only a 60 vote threshold can reinstate it.

[Illiniwek]

What are they voting on now?

[SoLongAtlas]

From a Twitter post in the #AHCA search

"Cases upon cases of beer just rolled into the Capitol on a cart covered in a sheet. Spotted Bud Light peeking out from the sheet"

Figures they would celebrate with the worst of all "beer" but celebrate they will! Disgusting.

Man. I know I say this a lot, but I really hate Republicans. Sometimes I forget how much I want them all to be diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease.

Dana Bash on CNN reporting that she hears them practicing their talking points in the background. Trump has invited them all to the WH if it passes for a celebration, buses waiting.

[The Other Castro]

Will Hurd is a NO.

https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/860193042296393728

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

What are they voting on now?

H.R.2192 - To amend the Public Health Service Act to eliminate the non-application of certain State waiver provisions to Members of Congress and congressional staff.

[Brittain33]

Will Hurd is a NO.

https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/860193042296393728

FF

[7,052,770]

Will Hurd is a NO.

https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/860193042296393728

Does that make 21?

[The Other Castro]

Will Hurd is a NO.

https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/860193042296393728

Does that make 21?

If all the Nos and Lean Nos vote No, yes that's 21.

[ApatheticAustrian]

What are they voting on now?

exemption of congress from HC bill it says on c-span.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Will Hurd is a NO.

https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/860193042296393728

Wow. Okay. Miss Gallego a little less now.