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« Reply #125 on: June 06, 2017, 04:28:27 PM »

You need to double your uniform swing if you want to switch the PV totals. As it stands you have the results of a PV tie in each election since 2000.
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« Reply #126 on: June 06, 2017, 07:42:04 PM »

You need to double your uniform swing if you want to switch the PV totals. As it stands you have the results of a PV tie in each election since 2000.

So, in the case of 2016, Trump's margins would increase by 4.18%? If that's the case, it makes sense- the change in elections like 2008 seemed a little strange.
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« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2017, 03:15:43 AM »

Futuristic election map:

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« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2017, 08:05:16 PM »

Like Reagan
Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton: 390 (54.1%)
John McCain/Joe Lieberman: 148 (43.7%)

Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton: 399 (55.7%)
Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty: 139 (42.8%)

Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker: 341 (51.7%)
Ted Cruz/Carly Fiorina: 197 (46.9%)
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« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2017, 09:33:13 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2017, 11:09:14 PM by razze »

U.S. presidential election, 2104

Gov. Cristina Basnuevo (Texas)
Democratic Party

(Progressivism, social democracy, Pro-Canadianism, Pro-Mexicanism)

Fmr. Gov. Fredrick Heinter (Pennsylvania)
Conservative Party

(Economic liberalism, centrism, liberal conservatism)

Sen. Georgia Glasser (Florida)
American Greens

(Centrism, green politics, Pro-Mexicanism)

Mayor Rhiannon Hersford (Louisiana)
Freedom and Justice Party

(Economic populism, Anti-Canadianism, Anti-Mexicanism)
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« Reply #130 on: June 09, 2017, 10:06:15 PM »

U.S. presidential election, 2104

Gov. Cristina Basnuevo (Texas)
Democratic Party

(Progressivism, social democracy, Pro-Canadianism, Pro-Mexicanism)

Fmr. Gov. Fredrick Heinter (Pennsylvania)
Conservative Party

(Economic liberalism, centrism, liberal conservatism)

Sen. Georgia Glasser (Florida)
American Greens

(Centrism, green politics, Pro-Mexicanism)

Mayor Rhiannon Hersford (Louisiana)
Freedom and Justice Party

(Economic populism, populism, Anti-Canadianism, Anti-Mexicanism)
This is really fascinating.
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« Reply #131 on: June 09, 2017, 11:13:43 PM »

2008 Democratic Primaries

Red - Senator Condoleezza Rice of Alabama
Green - Governor Brian David Schweitzer of Montana
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« Reply #132 on: June 09, 2017, 11:17:39 PM »

2008 Democratic Primaries

Red - Senator Condoleezza Rice of Alabama
Green - Governor Brian David Schweitzer of Montana
Condi hasn't lived in Alabama since childhood. She's much more suited to be a Senator from California, if anything.
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« Reply #133 on: June 09, 2017, 11:35:55 PM »

2008 Democratic Primaries

Red - Senator Condoleezza Rice of Alabama
Green - Governor Brian David Schweitzer of Montana
Condi hasn't lived in Alabama since childhood. She's much more suited to be a Senator from California, if anything.

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« Reply #134 on: June 10, 2017, 08:59:13 AM »



Richard M Nixon: 276 - 50.24%
John F Kennedy: 253 - 49.59%
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« Reply #135 on: June 10, 2017, 09:45:47 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2017, 09:50:30 PM by ScottieF »

Camelot Returns

After losing the hotly contested 1968 Democratic primaries to Vice President Hubert Humphrey, Senator Robert F. Kennedy's star continued to rise. Declining to run in 1972, he saw an opening in 1976 to reclaim the White House his brother once held. The early frontrunner in a sprawling field of primary candidates, RFK handily bests President Ford in the fall election, himself battered by a bruising primary challenge from his right by Ronald Reagan.


351 EV - Sen. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN): 52.11%
183 EV - Pres. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS): 47.23%



RFK's charm and persistent optimism is credited with setting the nation back on course after the dark days of Vietnam and Watergate, and his implementation of universal national health insurance proves deeply popular. Yet a tanking economy threatens to derail his re-election chances, and he finds a tough opponent in Ronald Reagan. The president, for his part, runs a spirited campaign, touting his administration's accomplishments while painting Reagan as a dangerous extremist who would undo them. It just barely proves enough for RFK to earn a second term - despite losing the popular vote.


306 EV - Pres. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN): 48.82%
232 EV - Fmr. Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Fmr. CIA Dir. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): 50.29%



The economy improves somewhat during RFK's second term, but is far from booming. Despite relative calm overseas and at home, voters are eager for a change to the status quo. Vice President Mondale sweeps the Democratic primaries, yet proves to be a far less inspiring campaigner than RFK and receives a lukewarm response from the public. On the Republican side, the field winnows down to a bitter contest between John Connally and George Bush, with the former's angry populism ultimately triumphing over the latter's restrained moderation. Connally's nomination prompts a third party run by moderate Republican John Anderson, who ends up drawing votes from both parties. In the end, Connally pulls off a win and puts the White House back into GOP hands.


297 EV - Fmr. Treasury Sec. John Connally (R-TX)/Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN): 46.55%
241 EV - Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Sen. Gary Hart (D-CO): 43.22%
0 EV - Rep. John B. Anderson (I-IL)/Fmr. Gov. Patrick Lucey (I-WI): 9.67%
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« Reply #136 on: June 11, 2017, 04:50:54 PM »

U.S. presidential election, 2104

Gov. Cristina Basnuevo (Texas)
Democratic Party

(Progressivism, social democracy, Pro-Canadianism, Pro-Mexicanism)

Fmr. Gov. Fredrick Heinter (Pennsylvania)
Conservative Party

(Economic liberalism, centrism, liberal conservatism)

Sen. Georgia Glasser (Florida)
American Greens

(Centrism, green politics, Pro-Mexicanism)

Mayor Rhiannon Hersford (Louisiana)
Freedom and Justice Party

(Economic populism, Anti-Canadianism, Anti-Mexicanism)
2108

Mayor Kionne Underwood (Tory-Ill.)
Sen. Gertrudis Schatz (Green-P.R.)
Pres. Cristina Basnuevo (Dem-Texas)
Fmr. Sen. Richard Johanns (FJP-Tenn.)
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« Reply #137 on: June 11, 2017, 10:10:23 PM »

Hostile Takeover the Democratic Party

Donald J. Trump/Albert Gore: 395 (54.15%)
George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle: 143 (44.06%)



Donald J. Trump/Albert Gore: 471 (59.90%)
Robert Dole/Jack Kemp: 67 (39.68%)
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« Reply #138 on: June 12, 2017, 05:51:44 PM »

2008



Businessman Donald J. Trump of New York/Senator Barack H. Obama of Illinois (D): 333
Senator John S. McCain III of Arizona/Governor Sarah H. Palin of Alaska (R): 216


2012



President Donald J. Trump of New York/Vice President Barack H. Obama of Illinois (D,
 Inc.): 353

Former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas/Governor Jon M. Huntsman, Jr. of Utah (R): 185


2016:



Former Governor Jeb Bush of Florida/Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey (R): 275
Vice President Barack H. Obama of Illinois/Former Governor Martin O'Malley of Maryland


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« Reply #139 on: June 13, 2017, 07:40:25 AM »

2012: Fear Realized
Frm. Gov. Jon Huntsman/Sen. Marco Rubio: 305 (49.49%)
Pres. Barack Obama/Vice Pres. Joe Biden: 233 (48.64%)

2016: Unprecedented
Businessman Donald Trump/Ret. Gen. James Mattis: 261 (37.54%)
Frm. Secy. of State: Hillary Clinton/Sen. Cory Booker: 204 (35.99%)
Pres. Jon Huntsman/Vice Pres. Marco Rubio: 73 (25.09%)
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« Reply #140 on: June 14, 2017, 10:48:09 PM »

1948:  Dewey Actually Defeats Truman




Governor Thomas Dewey(R-NY)/Governor Earl Warren(R-CA):  267
President Harry Truman(D-MO)/Senator Alben Barkley(D-KY):  226
Governor Strom Thurmond(Dixiecrat-SC)/Governor Fielding Wright(Dixiecrat-MS):  38
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« Reply #141 on: June 15, 2017, 07:53:40 AM »


Colin Powell/Jack Kemp: 281 (48.79%)
Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 257 (47.96%)


Colin Powell/Jack Kemp: 364 (53.05%)
Al Gore/Bill Bradley: 174 (45.11%)


Howard Dean/John Kerry: 270 (48.00%)
John McCain/Mike Huckabee: 268 49.03%)


Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty: 381 (53.90%)
Howard Dean/John Kerry: 157 (44.96%)


Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty: 407 (55.88%)
Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh: 131 (42.97%)
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« Reply #142 on: June 15, 2017, 05:15:46 PM »

1936 and 1972 PV totals applied to the 2016 election:

1936 (D+22.17):

Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine - 60.8%, 476 EVs
Donald Trump / Mike Pence - 36.54%, 62 EVs

1972 (R+25.54%):

Donald Trump / Mike Pence - 60.67%, 452 EVs
Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine - 27,52%, 86 EVs
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« Reply #143 on: June 15, 2017, 06:05:06 PM »
« Edited: June 16, 2017, 01:28:07 PM by Irritable Moderate »


General Colin L. Powell (R-NY)/Senator John McCain - 379 EV, 49.2%
Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Bob Graham - 159 EV, 43.8%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) - 0 EV, 3.87%
Pat Buchanan (C-VA)/Curtis Frazier (C-MO) - 0 EV, 2.99%
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« Reply #144 on: June 17, 2017, 02:35:24 PM »

Battle of the Dynasties
Sen. John F. Kennedy, Jr/Ret. Gen. Wesley Clark: 284 (50.54%)
Pres. George W. Bush/Vice Pres. Richard Cheney: 254 (48.00%)

Gov. Mitt Romney/Gov. Bill Owens: 286 (48.90%)
Pres. John F. Kennedy, Jr/Vice Pres. Wesley Clark: 252 (49.11%)

Gov. Hillary Rodham Clinton/Gov. Steve Beshear: 276 (48.79%)
Pres. Mitt Romney/Vice Pres. Bill Owens: 262 (47.53%)

Pres. Hillary Clinton/Vice Pres. Steve Beshear: 303 (50.31%)
Gov. Jeb Bush/Rep. Duncan Hunter: 235 (47.95%)
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« Reply #145 on: June 20, 2017, 01:09:07 AM »

Partially inspired by BTM, partially by boredom.

2030 New York Gubernatorial Election:

NYC Mayor Eric Ulrich / Fmr. U.S. Rep. Phil Palmesano:
3,108,984 - 47.15%

Lieutenant Governor Michael Gianaris / Syracuse Mayor Susan England:
2,245,837 - 34.61%

Erie County Executive Patrick Guthrie / Fmr. State Assemblyman Luis Sepúlveda:
1,202,729 - 18.24%

Margin:
863,147 - 12.54%

Ulrich, a popular Republican Mayor of New York City and a longtime rising star in the Republican ranks, wisely opted out of a 2028 run against President Cordray in order to seek the state's Governorship in 2030. He easily secured the Republican nomination over no-name opposition, and picked well-regarded former Congressman Phil Palmesano, who was narrowly defeated for reelection in the 2026 midterms, as his running mate.

The Democrats, meanwhile, had a far more divisive affair. Progressive Rep. Ruben Diaz Jr. and the more moderate Lieutenant Governor Michael Gianaris were the top two Democratic candidates, with several others hanging out in the back of the pack. After a viciously negative primary election, Gianaris came out on top by a precarious 41-38 margin, and flipped the bird to his progressive opponents by selecting Susan England, Syracuse's extremely moderate Mayor, as his running mate.

However, a shocker was in store -- the Working Families Party endorsed Patrick Guthrie, the Executive of Erie County. Only 38 years old, Guthrie had made a fortune in the tech industry shortly after discovering politics on Bernie Sanders' 2016 campaign, and had proven to be a dynamic candidate in his runs against Democratic establishmentarian politicos. Guthrie ran a boldly progressive campaign, and was able to secure the WFP endorsement for a non-Democrat for the first time in decades.

Polling showed a genuine three-way race up until the fall, when Gianaris and Ulrich both trained their fire on Guthrie and sent him into the low teens. However, after a major campaign finance scandal erupted in the last two weeks of campaigning, Gianaris once again began bleeding support to both candidates, and on election day suffered a bruising 13-point loss. Guthrie almost completely outpaced the incompetent Gianaris in Upstate NY, and Ulrich racked up ungodly margins there while cutting heavily into his margins in NYC, allowing Republicans to take back the Governor's Mansion for the first time since Pataki, more than 20 years earlier.
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« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2017, 07:39:05 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2017, 03:18:03 PM by Fmr. House Majority Leader Haslam2020 »

Kerry/Gephardt in '04!!



Sen. John Kerry/Rep. Dick Gephardt: 295 Electoral Votes, 48.9%
Pres. George W. Bush/V.P. Dick Cheney: 243 Electoral Votes, 48.6%

John Kerry selecte House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt as his running mate, though seen as "boring", Kerry's prediciton holds true. Gephardt somehow manages to serve as a good attack dog and protects the Rust Belt. Missouri and a couple other blue collar states go into Kerry's column. At 2 A.M, Bush concedes. The Kerry administration started off rough, with Iraq, and a general unease in the country. Kerry is unable to get out of Iraq, and the Economy is going in a downward spiral. After a close encounter with an Iranian jet in the Strait of Hormuz, a U.S destroyer was commanded not to fire even though it had been struck with several machine gun rounds in its hull, killing 2 U.S Navy sailors. The destroyer is ordered to retreat due to Kerry's "negotiations". Secretary of State Bill Richardson resigns in protest, yet declines to challenge Kerry. Kerry's approvals sink to the 30's by late 2007, and Representative Dennis Kucinich challenges him for the Democratic nomination, yet only wins five states: Vermont, Oregon, Alaska, West Virginia, and Montana, just coming up short in Ohio. Kerry is failing at home and abroad, and the Republicans select John McCain as their nominee, and McCain selects Senator Olympia Snowe as VP (Despite McCain vetting Fmr. Pres. Bush for the job, Bush declines for the good of the country.) McCain is portrayed as "the New Coming of Reagan", and in August, the Housing bubble pops, economic meltdown sets in. Kerry is destroyed in the debates by a hopeful McCain. Election Night comes, Kerry had no chance.

Swiftboated!!



Sen. John McCain/Sen. Olympia Snowe: 376 Electoral Votes, 54.2%
Pres. John Kerry/V.P. Dick Gephardt: 162 Electoral Votes, 42.9%

The McCain Administration started off with big hopes, big changes. The economy was in shambles, but the GOP Revolution of 2006 helped him pass key domestic legislation quickly. The McCain Administration was no dove on foreign policy, and quickly imposed strict sanctions on the "Axis of Evil" nations. Secretary of State Lieberman had met several leaders in the first 100 days. Olympia Snowe used her connections in the Senate to pass sensible VA care, and got the economy rebounding by 2010. Democrats made gains in 2010, but they were very narrow and the GOP still had a majority. McCain had a 50% approval rating by the start of 2011.  Iraq kept dragging his situation down, yet he had got the job done quicker. On January 23rd, 2011, The last U.S combat forces pulled out of Iraq. Weeks later, the primaries got new entries. The Democratic front runners were Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Though the Dem field was still interesting.... It included former SoS Bill Richardson, NC Gov. John Edwards, Senator Bernie Sanders, 2008 runner up Dennis Kucinich, Senator Joe Biden, Senator Chris Dodd, and Activist Michael Moore. After the early primaries, Clinton took great Super Tuesday leads. Obama and Sanders won states though, but after both candidates withdrew, the Democrats seemed unified. Hillary Clinton chose Barack Obama as her running mate, and the polls showed the voters wanted Clinton. After an intense election season, and the economy recovering, the election became closer. McCain seemed clueless in the first debate, but destroyed Clinton in the next two. Alas, election night had arrived.

Stability in Politics?




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« Reply #147 on: June 20, 2017, 07:50:02 PM »

Kerry/Gephardt in '04!!



Sen. John Kerry/Rep. Dick Gephardt: 295 Electoral Votes, 48.9%
Pres. George W. Bush/V.P. Dick Cheney: 243 Electoral Votes, 48.6%

John Kerry selecte House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt as his running mate, though seen as "boring", Kerry's prediciton holds true. Gephardt somehow manages to serve as a good attack dog and protects the Rust Belt. Missouri and a couple other blue collar states go into Kerry's column. At 2 A.M, Bush concedes. The Kerry administration started off rough, with Iraq, and a general unease in the country. Kerry is unable to get out of Iraq, and the Economy is going in a downward spiral. After a close encounter with an Iranian jet in the Strait of Hormuz, a U.S destroyer was commanded not to fire even though it had been struck with several machine gun rounds in its hull, killing 2 U.S Navy sailors. The destroyer is ordered to retreat due to Kerry's "negotiations". Secretary of State Bill Richardson resigns in protest, yet declines to challenge Kerry. Kerry's approvals sink to the 30's by late 2007, and Representative Dennis Kucinich challenges him for the Democratic nomination, yet only wins five states: Vermont, Oregon, Alaska, West Virginia, and Montana, just coming up short in Ohio. Kerry is failing at home and abroad, and the Republicans select John McCain as their nominee, and McCain selects Senator Olympia Snowe as VP (Despite McCain vetting Fmr. Pres. Bush for the job, Bush declines for the good of the country.) McCain is portrayed as "the New Coming of Reagan", and in August, the Housing bubble pops, economic meltdown sets in. Kerry is destroyed in the debates by a hopeful McCain. Election Night comes, Kerry had no chance.

Swiftboated!!

I always thought that a Kerry/Gephardt ticket would have beaten Bush/Cheney. Gephardt and Vilsack were safe choices for Kerry instead of slick Edwards.
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« Reply #148 on: June 20, 2017, 10:33:02 PM »

Kerry/Gephardt in '04!!



Sen. John Kerry/Rep. Dick Gephardt: 295 Electoral Votes, 48.9%
Pres. George W. Bush/V.P. Dick Cheney: 243 Electoral Votes, 48.6%

John Kerry selecte House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt as his running mate, though seen as "boring", Kerry's prediciton holds true. Gephardt somehow manages to serve as a good attack dog and protects the Rust Belt. Missouri and a couple other blue collar states go into Kerry's column. At 2 A.M, Bush concedes. The Kerry administration started off rough, with Iraq, and a general unease in the country. Kerry is unable to get out of Iraq, and the Economy is going in a downward spiral. After a close encounter with an Iranian jet in the Strait of Hormuz, a U.S destroyer was commanded not to fire even though it had been struck with several machine gun rounds in its hull, killing 2 U.S Navy sailors. The destroyer is ordered to retreat due to Kerry's "negotiations". Secretary of State Bill Richardson resigns in protest, yet declines to challenge Kerry. Kerry's approvals sink to the 30's by late 2007, and Representative Dennis Kucinich challenges him for the Democratic nomination, yet only wins five states: Vermont, Oregon, Alaska, West Virginia, and Montana, just coming up short in Ohio. Kerry is failing at home and abroad, and the Republicans select John McCain as their nominee, and McCain selects Senator Olympia Snowe as VP (Despite McCain vetting Fmr. Pres. Bush for the job, Bush declines for the good of the country.) McCain is portrayed as "the New Coming of Reagan", and in August, the Housing bubble pops, economic meltdown sets in. Kerry is destroyed in the debates by a hopeful McCain. Election Night comes, Kerry had no chance.

Swiftboated!!

I always thought that a Kerry/Gephardt ticket would have beaten Bush/Cheney. Gephardt and Vilsack were safe choices for Kerry instead of slick Edwards.

Yeah, same here. He should have chosen Gephardt. But he'd lose pretty bad in '08. I may actually edit the TL hold on brb
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« Reply #149 on: June 22, 2017, 03:56:47 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2017, 04:07:20 PM by Fmr. House Majority Leader Haslam2020 »

Stability in Politics?



Sen. Hillary Clinton/Sen. Barack Obama: 271 Electoral Votes, 49.5%
Pres. John McCain/V.P. Olympia Snowe: 267 Electoral Votes, 48.0%

Three states were too close to call when Election Night came. Maine was a lot closer than expected, and though it was originally in the "Likely Hillary" column, Snowe delivered 3 of Maine's 4 Electoral Votes for McCain. New Hampshire, decided by a few thousand votes, for Hillary. Virginia was decided by 737 votes, and called at around 7:37 AM two days after the election. McCain conceded and wished Clinton the best. The Clinton administration started off rocky, with a hostage situation at the U.S Embassy in Benghazi due to the Civil War. The Libyan Government shot down U.S rescue forces and executed Ambassador Stevens. The President's approval ratings went down to 35%, and she got none of her domestic agenda through with a GOP congress. Clinton was forced to invade Libya, supporting southeastern Rebel forces. The situation was eerily similar to Iraq's, and by the time of the 2014 midterms, voters felt betrayed, they felt hundreds of U.S servicemens' lives was on Hillary's hands. The Republicans made several gains in both the House and the Senate. In 2015, a scandal broke out about The Clinton foundation's involvement in Haiti and evidence was found that criminal wrongdoing happened. Articles of impeachment were introduced by Representatives Louie Gohmert and Marsha Blackburn. She was impeached by both the House and the Senate, and Vice President Obama took office on May 1st, 2015. Obama quickly pardoned Clinton, and cleared the "potential problems" of Clinton's cabinet, getting a new staff and a few new ambassadors. Obama announced his intention to not seek a full term, but to serve out his term to save the country. The Democrats were in disarray, it's superstars were gone, they needed a savior. Many high prominent democrats declined to run, fearing a potential McCain(?!) comeback. Former SoS Bill Richardson was the first to announce his candidacy, then Fmr. Gov Martin O'Malley, Senator Jim Webb, Senator Amy Klobuchar, Governor Andrew Cuomo, and Senator Bernie Sanders. There was strong populist sentiments, and Bernie took several states, knocking his closest competition out by April. The Republicans were much more divisive, Ted Cruz and former VA Sec. Jim Gilmore won Iowa, and NH, respectively. SC went to Bobby Jindal and Nevada went to Cruz. Eventually, Cruz won the nomination. By July, and the conventions ending, it was dead heat. Obama distanced himself from partisanship, and just tried to make the Libya situation easier on his successor. After months of a tough, destructive campaign, Bernie Sanders/Al Franken faced off against Ted Cruz/Jim Gilmore.

Conservative Revolution



Sen. Ted Cruz/Fmr. Sec. Jim Gilmore: 308 Electoral Votes, 49.3%
Sen. Bernie Sanders/Sen. Al Franken: 230 Electoral Votes: 45.6%
Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson/Fmr. Rep. Kerry Bentvolio: 3.5%


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