Why do people (still) like Hillary Clinton?
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« on: April 16, 2017, 02:36:12 PM »

From the left, she's disliked by jfern types for obvious reasons. From the right, she's disliked by almost everyone for obvious reasons. From the center, she's disliked in general for obvious reasons. But she's still somehow the most admired woman in America. For what? Being a massive corrupt failure in life?

It makes no sense to me. Then again, it never made any sense to me that she won more than 1% of the vote in the 2016 Dem primary. Since this is a pro-Hillary site, I'm asking for your suggestions. I don't get it.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 02:41:07 PM »

i wouldn't defend her if the attacks on her wouldn't be so ridiculous.

she is someone who believes in patriotism and duty and giving her life for the country and she worked hard, even while she is not a gifted politican, which makes this even harder.

a decent even while over-ambitioned woman at the wrong time at the wrong place.

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 02:44:01 PM »

She's the most accomplished female politician in America, almost unquestionably. She's been fighting for civil rights and women's rights for decades. I think her time is done, but she's an admirable person in terms of what she's accomplished.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2017, 02:45:30 PM »

This forum is hardly representative of the country as a whole.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2017, 03:04:33 PM »

She's the most accomplished female politician in America, almost unquestionably. She's been fighting for civil rights and women's rights for decades. I think her time is done, but she's an admirable person in terms of what she's accomplished.

Most definitely this.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2017, 03:12:08 PM »

She's an imperfect person with imperfect judgement, but who isn't? I admire her unbridled ambition and dogged determination to get what she wants. In her mind, I think she believes she is doing mostly good things.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2017, 03:32:16 PM »

Do they?
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2017, 03:34:58 PM »

She's the most accomplished female politician in America, almost unquestionably. She's been fighting for civil rights and women's rights for decades. I think her time is done, but she's an admirable person in terms of what she's accomplished.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2017, 04:06:56 PM »

Why would we stop liking her just because she was jibbed out of the presidency by Comey, the Russians, and the Electoral College?
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2017, 05:09:28 PM »

This forum is hardly representative of the country as a whole.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2017, 05:19:56 PM »

Why would we stop liking her just because she was jibbed out of the presidency by Comey, the Russians, and the Electoral College?
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2017, 05:21:04 PM »

I do think she is unfairly blamed for a wider failing of the democratic party in the Obama era.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2017, 06:41:07 PM »

I do think she is unfairly blamed for a wider failing of the democratic party in the Obama era.

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2017, 08:29:20 PM »

Kneejerk partisanship
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2017, 08:48:39 PM »

I do think she is unfairly blamed for a wider failing of the democratic party in the Obama era.

This.
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2017, 08:50:18 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2017, 10:22:26 AM »

On the whole, people who have harsh words for Clinton yet who have vanishingly few points of criticism with regard to Obama and other party leaders of his era aren't thinking hard enough about what is happening to the Democratic Party today. Particularly now that Obama is cashing in with a $60M book deal and drifting from private island to private island pitching for money toward his presidential library and philanthropic "initiatives" that are really more about political action and self-promotion.

In retrospect, it was bafflingly obvious that Obama and his ilk were dazzled far too much by the lives of the beautiful people. I mean, he even sent his children to a fee-paying private school (i just found that out the other day), which is always a betrayal for ostensibly "centre-right" politicians.

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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2017, 10:31:54 AM »

In retrospect, it was bafflingly obvious that Obama and his ilk were dazzled far too much by the lives of the beautiful people. I mean, he even sent his children to a fee-paying private school (i just found that out the other day), which is always a betrayal for ostensibly "centre-right" politicians.
To be fair, it'd be distracting and problematic for him to have sent his kids to a DC public school with the Secret Service and all. I don't know where the Obama kids went to school in Chicago.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2017, 10:57:26 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2017, 12:24:41 PM »

She's the most accomplished female politician in America, almost unquestionably. She's been fighting for civil rights and women's rights for decades. I think her time is done, but she's an admirable person in terms of what she's accomplished.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2017, 04:31:46 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2017, 10:37:19 AM »

She's the most accomplished female politician in America, almost unquestionably. She's been fighting for civil rights and women's rights for decades. I think her time is done, but she's an admirable person in terms of what she's accomplished.

Hillary's accomplished virtually nothing in her life that wasn't a direct result of her husband's political success. Virtually every time the onus has been on her, it's been a complete disaster.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2017, 10:19:33 PM »

encouraging Bill to sign the third Republican welfare reform bill

Ugh, I had no idea she had a hand in this too.
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2017, 10:24:57 PM »

Lol, only men could take a look at the record of the most admired woman in America for 20 years straight who has gotten further than any other woman in politics and say she "accomplished virtually nothing in her life that wasn't a direct result of her husband's political success". The definition of sexism right there.
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2017, 10:17:49 AM »

Lol, only men could take a look at the record of the most admired woman in America for 20 years straight who has gotten further than any other woman in politics and say she "accomplished virtually nothing in her life that wasn't a direct result of her husband's political success". The definition of sexism right there.

It's true, that characterization is somewhat unfair. If not for Bill Clinton, it's very likely that Hillary Clinton would have made a name for herself as one of the most stunningly successful real estate investors in her time.

Without James Smith, Woodrow Wilson would have made a name for himself as one of the most stunningly reformist presidents of Princeton University, but you don't hear Smith's name brought up much in evaluations of Wilson.
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