HOUSE BILL: The 21st Century Glass-Steagall Act (Passed)
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« on: April 17, 2017, 10:07:18 PM »
« edited: May 21, 2017, 11:06:44 PM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 10:10:30 PM »

This is based off of the Warren bill from 2013.

I of course paired it down to Atlasian style legislation. So Section II, might need a little beefing up, but the idea is pretty basic. To separate bank lending from investment banking.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 05:57:44 PM »

I could have sworn we had Laborites in this House. 



Guess I was mistaking!  Or maybe they are all DLC Laborites who love them some Wall Street cheese!
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2017, 02:27:04 AM »

Well, I think that this is a great first step. Not enough, but a great first step.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 06:03:43 PM »

Yes, A BODY!!! SOCIAL ACTIVITY!!!!!!


Well, I think that this is a great first step. Not enough, but a great first step.



Well I am leery of going too comprehensive here. Because you have seen the response so far. Tongue It might be worth it to beef up section 2, because I really condensed that down. So to further establish the degrees of separation might need to step back a bit on the condensing.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2017, 06:09:21 PM »

Yeah I agree with Simossad. This is a step in the right direction, but there is a risk.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2017, 08:18:22 PM »

Yeah I agree with Simossad. This is a step in the right direction, but there is a risk.

What kind of risk?
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2017, 02:15:52 AM »

Still waiting!
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 11:09:30 PM »

So Yankee, are you confident that bringing back the Glass-Stegall Act will prevent or alleviate a financial crisis?
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2017, 11:47:38 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2017, 11:57:54 PM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

So Yankee, are you confident that bringing back the Glass-Steagall Act will prevent or alleviate a financial crisis?

Alone, no.


As part of a larger sea change, yes.

The damage of the crisis was the crippling effect it had on credit markets because institutions were so large and had taken such risks, forcing the need for a bailout or all lending would cease. This bailout then created the perverse incentive to encourage future risk taking because now they think tax payers will bail them out again. We have seen subsequent scandals and it only takes a small glance to see that the situation and culture has not changed much at all. Therefore it is only a matter of time and I don't think Dodd-Frank is going to be enough. For one I have always been suspicious of Dodd-Frank in a Bernie Sanders kind of way. Both were greased by Wall Street, one of them had a below market loan from Countrywide Financial, and both filibustered/opposed reforms to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pushed by McCain and ironically the Bush administration for 5 years, only to turn around in 2008 and hypocritically demand to know why the aforementioned administration had no plan to deal with Fannie and Freddie. Needless to say, I don't trust the work of the Wall Street wing of the Democratic Party to save us. The sheer complexity of the package has done more to enshrine too big too fail and too little has been done to break up or shrink these institutions and the consolidation of assets into fewer and fewer firms is by far the biggest risk factor you have and the one that should have been prioritized, and the alone that should scare the hell of anybody.

Restoring this as a first step will enable us to start breaking the big too big to fail firms apart into smaller entities that will be more manageable and therefore enable the markets to hold people accountable for bad financial decisions, without it tanking the rest of the economy or financial sector.

As I said before there are other steps that will need to be taken to further prevent this. I think some of the biggest risk factors for collapse came from the lack of accurate financial ratings, poorly set leveraging requirements and the floodgates of new financial products in the ten years leading up to that event, following the massive deregulation that occurred in the late 1990's. These will have to be done in a separate, subsequent bill. One that I am presently gearing up for in the next congress.

The roll of Glass-Steagall is too fold, by separating bank lending and investment banking, you not only shrink the size of firms by definition, you also remove a perverse incentive. Bank lending is FDIC insured, or at least the deposits are, which creates a false sense of security and culture within these amalgamated institutions that bailouts are institutionalized because the strain on the FDIC of such a firm going insolvent would lead either Congress or the Fed to swoop in and provide the golden parachute as it were. With them separated, you begin to create a culture that accepts the reality that every risk could lead to failure and therefore they better avoid too much risk, otherwise it is curtains.

The people at Lehman Brother's thought they would be bailed out and despite all the warning signs, kept making bad decisions.

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2017, 05:20:42 AM »

I plan to make one last review of the text and consider any changes at that point, otherwise when I get back on I plan to start wrapping this up.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2017, 09:40:51 AM »

So where are we on this?
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2017, 04:13:49 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2017, 05:16:31 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2017, 05:14:25 PM »

The amendment H6:03 has been adopted.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2017, 08:27:13 AM »

Now that there have not been objections, I now call for a final vote.
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2017, 06:32:19 AM »

A final vote is now open on the underlying legislation, Representatives, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2017, 07:03:38 AM »

Aye!
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2017, 07:05:04 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2017, 09:42:59 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2017, 09:54:54 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2017, 10:27:17 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2017, 04:17:55 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2017, 10:38:24 AM »

This vote ends tomorrow morning!!!
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2017, 11:11:08 AM »

So is this passed or what
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