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« Reply #1025 on: May 19, 2017, 11:33:55 am »
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Labour - 80%
PC - 74%
LD - 73%
SNP - 73%
Green - 66%
Tory - 57%
UKIP -50%
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« Reply #1026 on: May 19, 2017, 12:02:02 pm »
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Only 2 of the 10 largest papers favor the Labour party over the Tories.



     Given the utter disaster Labour's campaign has been, the Mirror appears to be some sort of propaganda arm for the Labour Party.
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« Reply #1027 on: May 19, 2017, 12:05:45 pm »
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Only 2 of the 10 largest papers favor the Labour party over the Tories.



     Given the utter disaster Labour's campaign has been, the Mirror appears to be some sort of propaganda arm for the Labour Party.

Yes, the Mirror is more or less the unofficial publishing arm of the Labour Party and has been since WWII.
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« Reply #1028 on: May 19, 2017, 12:11:25 pm »
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Only 2 of the 10 largest papers favor the Labour party over the Tories.



     Given the utter disaster Labour's campaign has been, the Mirror appears to be some sort of propaganda arm for the Labour Party.

The campaign (and most in the party would acknowledge this) hasn't been that bad at all - Abbott's gaffe seems more like a sore thumb now. Corbyn, McDonnell and Thornberry (the other three holds of shadow Great Offices) have all conducted themselves quite well thus far. At the very least we have positioned ourselves as the main alternative to the Tories. Which still might mean we go down to 150 seats or whatever but still.

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« Reply #1029 on: May 19, 2017, 01:45:38 pm »
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Only 2 of the 10 largest papers favor the Labour party over the Tories.



     Given the utter disaster Labour's campaign has been, the Mirror appears to be some sort of propaganda arm for the Labour Party.

Yes, the Mirror is more or less the unofficial publishing arm of the Labour Party and has been since WWII.
Yes indeed. And the Daily Mail has largely played the same role for the Conservative Party over the same period.
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« Reply #1030 on: May 19, 2017, 02:06:56 pm »
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Really? I would have guessed the Torygraph. Isn't the Daily Mail the paper of angry old men?
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« Reply #1031 on: May 19, 2017, 02:24:00 pm »
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aren't the times, the sun, the dm and the torygraph pro-tories nearly all the time? (yaya, the sun was pro-blair, i know)
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« Reply #1032 on: May 19, 2017, 02:24:23 pm »
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Really? I would have guessed the Torygraph. Isn't the Daily Mail the paper of angry old men?

No the Daily Mail is the only major paper that has a majority female readership. Your typical Daily Mail reader is a fairly affluent, Conservative voting, middle age, middle class woman who lives somewhere in the Home Counties.

Plus I think the Mail did back Labour in '97 whereas the Telegraph has always backed the Tories.
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« Reply #1033 on: May 19, 2017, 03:01:57 pm »
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Mail didn't back Labour in 1997; although Gordon Brown became very close to Paul Dacre (their editor) and there were mutterings that they would have backed him over Cameron in '07.

The Mirror is the unofficial propaganda, whilst the New Statesmen is the in house press, and is by far the best paper for Labour politics.

Out of the papers on that list the Financial Times, the Independent and the Guardian are the only papers who have an endorsement that isn't baked. (Along with the Sunday Times)
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« Reply #1034 on: May 19, 2017, 03:16:57 pm »
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My results from isidewith:

65% Labour
62% PC
60% Lib Dem
59% Green
58% SNP
56% Sinn Fein
56% UKIP
55% DUP
50% Conservative
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« Reply #1035 on: May 19, 2017, 03:53:03 pm »
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"What Will Happen To Me, Mrs May?": Heart-Wrenching Call From Carer

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/what-will-happen-to-me-mrs-may-call-from-carer/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Labour's Emily Thornberry Does Not Rule Out Scrapping Trident

http://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/elections/general-election-2017/lbcs-election-call/emily-thornberry-does-not-rule-out-trident/
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« Reply #1036 on: May 19, 2017, 04:05:26 pm »
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LD 75%
Labour 69%
SNP 69%
PC 66%
Tory 58%
Green 62%
UKIP 52%

well i did vote LD in 2005 and 2010

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« Reply #1037 on: May 19, 2017, 04:23:53 pm »
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An American who would be entirely happy with Labour (at least, according to iSideWith)

LAB: 78%
LIB: 72%
CON: 37%
UKIP: 32%

I would be interested to see (quantitatively) how I measured with the SNP.
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« Reply #1038 on: May 19, 2017, 04:25:06 pm »
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CON      57
UKIP     53
DUP      44
BNP      38
LIB       36
SF        32
PC        30
LAB      30
Green    30
SNP       28
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« Reply #1039 on: May 19, 2017, 04:27:48 pm »
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I don't see how that thing can judge my closeness to the DUP since it didn't ask me what I think of the Pope or whether I believe the Earth was created 6000 years ago.

(Lab, Green, SF, LD, Plaid, SNP all scored highly, in that order but with little difference between them, then a big gap to DUP, New UKIPTories, UKIP, BNP.)
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« Reply #1040 on: May 19, 2017, 04:41:59 pm »
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Isidewith results:

Lib Dem 76%
Democratic Unionist 76%
Labour 74%
Plaid and SNP 68%
Green 62%
Sinn Fein 60%
BNP 57%
Conservative 55%
UKIP 51%

Pretty sure something's wrong with that test, at least in respects to the Irish parties. I though the Democratic Unionists were "Irish Conservatives"? Pretty much?

It does more or less OK for the British parties though, I agree with the ranking.

For all what's worth I would probably vote Labour if I was British (depending on the dynamics of the constituency of course).
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« Reply #1041 on: May 19, 2017, 04:46:51 pm »
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Labour 90%
Green 78%
Lib Dem 70%
Tories 28%
UKIP 22%
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« Reply #1042 on: May 19, 2017, 05:00:25 pm »
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LD: 88%
Lab: 77%
SNP: 76%
PC: 73%
Green: 71%
SF: 70%
UKIP: 55%
Con: 55%
DUP: 38%
BNP: 23% (ew)
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« Reply #1043 on: May 19, 2017, 05:25:13 pm »
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Lib Dems - 68%
SNP - 63% (Preffered party, imo)
Labour - 60%
Greens - 59%

Plaid - 56%
Sinn Fein - 54%
Strong and Stable Leadership - 45%
UKIP - 42%

BNP - 40% (Wow, shockingly high for an EU federalist. Same goes for UKIP)
DUP - 40%
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« Reply #1044 on: May 19, 2017, 05:45:39 pm »
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Labour 65%
Lib Dems 62%
SNP 62%
Plaid Cymru 62%
Sinn Fin 57%
Greens 57%
Tories 42%
BNP 35%
DUP 35%
UKIP 33%
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« Reply #1045 on: May 19, 2017, 06:09:11 pm »
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I first started following UK politics just before the 2001 election, and at that time I preferred Kennedy to Hague and Blair.  So basically, no surprises.

65% Liberal Democrats
63% SNP
62% Labour
62% Plaid
61% Green
57% Sinn Fein
46% Conservative
39% DUP
35% UKIP
30% BNP
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« Reply #1046 on: May 19, 2017, 08:13:19 pm »
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90% Labour
87% Liberal Democrat
86% SNP
82% Green
82% Plaid Cymru
79% Sinn Fein
49% DUP
41% UKIP
41% Conservative
39% BNP

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« Reply #1047 on: May 19, 2017, 08:59:40 pm »
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Yeah the fact they have the BNP on there is pretty dumb, seeing as last time they were beaten by TUSC, the NHA, Respect, Yorkshire First, Cannabis is Safer than Alcohol, Mebyon Kernow, Socialist Labour, the English Democrats, Lincolnshire Independents, Liberals, Monster Raving Loonies, Christians, Christian People's, Worker's Party, Poole People, the "Independent Save Withybush Save Lives" and the North East Party.
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« Reply #1048 on: May 19, 2017, 09:07:19 pm »
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Labour 86
SNP 86
Plaid Cymru 81
Green 80
Liberal Democrat 78
Sinn Fein 78
British National 49
Conservative 48
UKIP 48
Democratic Unionist 45
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« Reply #1049 on: May 19, 2017, 10:52:17 pm »
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1. Labour 79%
2. Plaid Cymru 76%
3. SNP 75%
4. LibDem 75%
5. Green 69%

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