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Intell
Junior Chimp
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« on: April 18, 2017, 11:19:03 PM »
« edited: April 18, 2017, 11:22:48 PM by Intell »

My prediction is

Torie : 397
Labour : 121 (No way this low, at least above 170)
Lib Dem: 60(they come 2nd in popular vote ), noway they come 2nd in the popular vote
SNP: 54
UKIP:11 (If they didn't get 11 seats in 2015, they ceartinly ain't this time.
Others :7



Let me laugh, oh let me laugh again no.

Conservative: 41.5% (358)
Labour: 26% (183)
Liberal Democrats: 12% (31)
UKIP: 10.5% (2)
Greens: 1.5% (1)
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,812
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Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -1.24

« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2017, 02:45:31 AM »

Are coal miners in the UK labour conservative or liberal democrats

They are solid tory voters of course, and burn effigies of a former labour PM.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,812
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Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -1.24

« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2017, 03:26:47 AM »

Are coal miners in the UK labour conservative or liberal democrats

They are solid tory voters of course, and burn effigies of a former labour PM.

didnt coal miners dislike Reagan here too , and despite that they became solidly gop in the 2000s.

In the US, coal country varied between places.

Coal Country in Indiana went from lean democrat, to lean republican after 2000'

Coal Country in Western KY switched in 2000'

Coal Country in Western PA flipped in 2008

Coal Country WV switched in 08', same with Coal country, eastern KY

Coal Country OH switched in 12'

Coal Country in southern IL, largely flipped in 04'

Coal Country in Eastern PA, remained solidly democratic, atleast the coal mining parts, until 2016.




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Intell
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,812
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Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -1.24

« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2017, 03:28:24 AM »
« Edited: April 20, 2017, 03:58:55 AM by Intell »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvN804dEKWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InfxZI4jZaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LnB0arj1iY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI9KlIJfXQU


http://ogilvyprlondon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Coalfields-v-labour.jpg

Solid tory voters.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,812
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Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -1.24

« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2017, 06:21:14 AM »

Are coal miners in the UK labour conservative or liberal democrats

They are solid tory voters of course, and burn effigies of a former labour PM.

didnt coal miners dislike Reagan here too , and despite that they became solidly gop in the 2000s.

Issue salience on social issues are very very low down on the list of the urban proleteriat in Europe. Besides, the UK Labour party has a quite "workerist" wing to cover any of that particular electorate. Their Stoke by-election campaign was evidence of that.

Also, the traditional standard bearers of depressed industrial peripheries vs urban liberal centres in Europe have been centre-left parties, although this trend is clearly changing. I don't think European workers really care about the centre-periphery issue though, unlike in the US where the Southern and Rust belt GOP vote might be associated with "anti-Washington" politics.



From the UK from what it seems, the divide seems to be between the north vs south, and thatcher with support in london and south being responsible for the death of industry in northern working class areas.

It isn't divided into the classical remain vs leave areas, where the liberal metropolitan elite was resented at, but a broader resentment at the affluence of the south, and the despair of industrial areas, as evidenced by strong leave votes, in solidly labour areas, and this being continued in the stoke by-election.

I'm probably wrong, but this is what it seems like.

In addition, the labour party in the UK, seems to attract the majority of the poor, working class vote, in the UK, while in other European Countries, like France, Austria, Denmark, Eastern Germany, Finland? they have gone to the far-right.
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,812
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Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -1.24

« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 07:28:32 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2017, 07:31:41 PM by Intell »

Who exactly is still voting Labour in Scotland?

Me and my 89 year old gran, who's voting labour because "her father always did" (in fairness, as he was a miner, although he'd obviously vote UKIP now, she's probably right)

Are you saying this sarcastically or?
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Intell
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,812
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Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -1.24

« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2017, 09:23:56 PM »

BBC gets smacked around every cycle, they are always accused of supporting the ruling party

That has been true since the times of Thatcher.
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