UK General Election, June 8th 2017

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Well...I guess soon Labour will have a new leader.

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Looks like Michael Foot is going to be redeemed in the eyes of history.

Michael Foot would've stepped down if he had lost the confidence of his party.

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So let us say that Theresa May wins the election on the 8th of June by how the polls are telling us she will win, would Jeremy Corbyn step down as Labour Leader in the event he loses catastrophically?

I would certainly hope so.

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Well at least Labour will finally get rid of Corbyn once and for all, who is odds favorite to become leader after he goes?

Who the Christ knows with this membership? Hopefully someone like Keir Starmer. I quite like Tulip Siddiq and Dan Jarvis. Maybe Sadiq Khan can pull a Sturgeon and lead the party from out of parliament. Maybe Clive Lewis could appeal to the Corbynistas?

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Tim Farron hits the first fence. He won't say whether or not he considers homosexuality a sin on Channel 4 News.

Jesus, Tim, that's a layup you just missed.

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That is a really unflattering photograph.

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I'm not sure whether to support Corbyn's Labour or the Liberal Democrats. Corbyn is too extreme and hasn't earned my support, while the LibDems are actually pro-EU while I bet Corbyn voted for Leave. However, I am not sure yet and will watch this campaign closely.

Farron (Lib Dem leader) just said that he wasn't sure if homosexuality was a sin or not, which has me as undecided again.

I guess I'm rooting for as many Labour people to win their seats as possible, but enough to lose so that Corbyn goes.

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I think the next Labour leader (after Corbyn likely steps aside) could stay on as leader of the party for a really long time, if Labour manages to make substantial gains in the next GE, even possibly without winning outright.

A-la Kinnock.

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I think the next Labour leader (after Corbyn likely steps aside) could stay on as leader of the party for a really long time, if Labour manages to make substantial gains in the next GE, even possibly without winning outright.

A-la Kinnock.

Would u say the numbers I predicted is possible

Possible? Yes, but extremely unlikely. I think Labour's floor is around 150 though, and I don't think the LibDems will finish second in votes, especially considering Farron just launched the LibDem campaign with a resounding thud.

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If May doesn't show up to the debate, Corbyn will have a gargantuan target on his back. SNP, Liberal Democrats, Greens and UKIP are all trying to pull from Labour from various wings of the party (SNP from Scots, Greens from educated lefties, Liberals from militant remainers, UKIP from unionized leavers).

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Also there's this photo:

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lol corbyn

https://twitter.com/yougov/status/854975227960455168

Theresa May gains her highest ever "best Prime Minister" rating at 54% - Jeremy Corbyn on 15%, don't know 31%

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Some random dude on Twitter says Coyne was ahead in the election.

https://mobile.twitter.com/feedthedrummer/status/855072465881632768

Tom Wilson‏ @feedthedrummer

I have heard from multiple people that Coyne was just ahead in the Unite vote sampling this morning before his suspension was announced.

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George Eaton ✔ @georgeeaton
Sampling shows Unite's Gerard Coyne on 46% and Len McCluskey on 44%, according to source.

Things are getting very dicey in Unite...and Labour.

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In light of the complete garbage Political Compass put out about France, what do you think they'll do for the UK?

May and Faron literal Nazis, Corbyn and Lucas dead center.

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All voters in all GB constituencies should have the opportunity to vote for a Labour candidate.

Exactly. And the audacity of a protest party asking a party of government to stand down in a constituency already held...

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LibDem "the Jews" guy kicked out.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tim-farron-sacks-david-ward-antisemitism-lib-dem-candidate-bradford-east-a7703416.html

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Problem is that while Labour's policies test well, the popularity of Corbyn is just that bad. In fact, there was a poll that found said policies actually were less popular when people were told they were Labour policies.

Apprently polls for "The Labour Party" were two points higher than polls for "Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party."

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Nearly Half of all Labour voters may desert the party


Wow if this is true

Im not surprised, a lot of soft Labour votes.

Labour is torn by soft Leavers and Remainers voters, whichever way the party moves it will lose votes.
Before the referendum, i thought the vote would hurt the tories in England, like indyref hurt Labour in Scotland, however the tories are standing their ground and it UKIP and Labour being hurt most.

Maybe anecdotal, but ive noticed Tory remain voters are less likely to defect to the Lib Dems then Labour remain voters. 

Maybe the difference between popular and unpopular leadership?

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I have recently seen Labour gain some slight traction in YouGov polls, much to the delight of British twitter. Should this at all concern May and the Tories, is YouGov trash, or is it just noise and it will soon subside?

Labour's been polling around 30% recently, which is what they got in 2015. Still miles behind the Tories, though. I think it's just noise. Corbyn and Labour have hit the campaign trail running while May's started with more of a thud.

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Professor Steve Fisher of university of Oxford English local elections seats forecast from polls
Con +430
Lab -315
LD -30

Unsurprising for Labour, but surprising for the Lib dems.

Vote splitting between LibDems and Labour?

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BBC1 John Piennar: "Lab MPs with majorities up to 5,000 have told me they have abandoned hope of retaining their seats"

Who would that be? Let's find out:

Jack Dromey, Bimingham Erdington, +5,129
Jo Stevens, Cardiff Central, +4,981
Jon Cruddas, Dagenham and Rainham, +4,980
Ivan Lewis, Bury South, +4,922
Ruth Smeeth, Stoke-on-Trent North, +4,836
Jessica Modern, Newport East, +4,705
Sue Hayman, Wokington, +4,686
Melanie Onn, Great Grimsby, +4,540
Lindsay Hoyle, Chorley, +4,530
Geoffrey Robinson, Coventry North West, +4,509
Neil Coyle, Bermondsey and Old Southwark, +4,489
Graham Jones, Hyndburn, +4,400
David Crausby, Bolton North East, +4,377
Ian Austin, Dudley North, +4,181
Kerry McCarthy, Bristol East, +3,980
Alan Whitehead, Southampton Test, +3,810
Paul Flynn, Newport West, +3,510
Helen Goodman, Bishop Auckland, +3,508
Mark Tami, Alyn and Deeside, +3,343
Julie Cooper, Burnley, +3,244
Jim Cunningham, Coventry South, +3,188
Jenny Chapman, Darlington, +3,158
Nic Dakin, Sc**nthorpe, +3,134
Iain Wright, Hartlepool, +3,084
Jess Phillips, Birmingham Yardley, +3,002
Vernon Coaker, Gedling, +2,986
David Hanson, Delyn, +2,930
Gisela Stuart, Birmingham Edgbaston, +2,706
Clive Efford, Eltham, +2,693
Ian Murray, Edinburgh South, +2,637
Mary Creagh, Wakefield, +2,613
Gordon Marsden, Blackpool South, +2,585
Rob Flello, Stoke-on-Trent South, +2,539
Richard Burden, Birmingham Northfield, +2,509
Susan Elan Jones, Clwyd South, +2,402
Tom Blenkinsop, Middlesbrough South and Cleveland East, +2,268
Gareth Thomas, Harrow West, +2,208
Karen Buck, Westminster North, +1,977
David Winnick, Walsall North, +1,937
Madeleine Moon, Bridgend, +1,927
Natascha Engel, Derbyshire North East, +1,883
Ian Lucas, Wrexham, +1,831
Paula Sheriff, Dewsbury, +1,451
Catherine Smith, Lancaster and Fleetwood, +1,65
Peter Kyle, Hove, +1,236
Tulip Siddiq, Hampstead and Kilburn, +1,138
Joan Ryan, Enfield North, +1,086
Rob Marris, Wolverhampton South West, +801
John Woodcock, Barrow and Furness, +795
Paul Farrelly, Newcastle-under-Lyme, +650
Daniel Zeichner, Cambridge, +599
Wes Streeting, Ilford North, +589
Ruth Cadbury, Brentford and Isleworth, +465
Holly Lynch, Halifax, +428
Margaret Greenwood, Wirral West, +417
Rupa Huq, Ealing Central and Acton, +274
Albert Owen, Ynys Môn, +229
Chris Matheson, City of Chester, +93

These are the people who've already given up hope of returning to parliament.

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Wow. I expected the Grauniad to back the Lib Dems, not go full Tory.

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On who would you trust to protect the NHS:
T. May: 42%
J. Corbyn: 39%
(Survation)

What.

It's almost as if Jeremy Corbyn sucks and no one thinks he can do anything right.

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Chuka Ummuna poo-pooed this idea just yesterday.