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« on: April 18, 2017, 10:34:01 am »
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Which politician is most likely to be the first Jewish American president?
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 10:35:42 am »
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I'm going to go with either Jason Kander or Eric Greitens (both from Missouri).
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2017, 10:58:35 am »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 11:18:22 am »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 12:53:34 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

Oh please the alt-right is only a major presence on internet comment sections.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 01:15:22 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 01:25:14 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2017, 01:27:30 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2017, 02:49:54 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 03:04:53 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.


The alt right will be an irrelevant fringe group in 4 years.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2017, 04:45:00 pm »
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Likelihood:
1. Bernie Sanders
2. Al Franken
3. Ron Wyden
4. Brian Schatz
5. Lee Zeldin
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2017, 05:08:59 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

So you're saying the comments of Keith Ellison are putting the Jews in danger?  Or is it just anyone with an R next to their name since that happens to be your political enemies?  Start thinking about both sides before you post from now on.  Just in case someone on here says I'm not backing things up here you go.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2017, 05:09:39 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2017, 05:10:33 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

Ellison just supported the most prominent Jew to ever run for President, though.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2017, 05:17:06 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

Ellison just supported the most prominent Jew to ever run for President, though.

Sure if he's a Democrat he'll be defended but that doesn't change who he really is.  I'm sure his liberal politics takes precedent over his anti-Semitism.  It's hilarious to see scums like Ellison and Byrd get free passes and excuses from the left while hard working American patriots like Jeff Sessions and Gorsuch are branded as sexist, racist, or hating the poor.  It's very entertaining to watch the left use these talking points for nearly a century.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2017, 05:24:19 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

Ellison just supported the most prominent Jew to ever run for President, though.

Sure if he's a Democrat he'll be defended but that doesn't change who he really is.  I'm sure his liberal politics takes precedent over his anti-Semitism.  It's hilarious to see scums like Ellison and Byrd get free passes and excuses from the left while hard working American patriots like Jeff Sessions and Gorsuch are branded as sexist, racist, or hating the poor.  It's very entertaining to watch the left use these talking points for nearly a century.

Right wing antisemitism is racial, and is therefore much more dangerous than any negativity about Jews on the left.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2017, 05:32:58 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

Ellison just supported the most prominent Jew to ever run for President, though.

Sure if he's a Democrat he'll be defended but that doesn't change who he really is.  I'm sure his liberal politics takes precedent over his anti-Semitism.  It's hilarious to see scums like Ellison and Byrd get free passes and excuses from the left while hard working American patriots like Jeff Sessions and Gorsuch are branded as sexist, racist, or hating the poor.  It's very entertaining to watch the left use these talking points for nearly a century.

Right wing antisemitism is racial, and is therefore much more dangerous than any negativity about Jews on the left.

Now you're not even trying.  We get it Dem=good and GOP=bad.  How intelligent!
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2017, 06:41:29 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

Ellison just supported the most prominent Jew to ever run for President, though.

Sure if he's a Democrat he'll be defended but that doesn't change who he really is.  I'm sure his liberal politics takes precedent over his anti-Semitism.  It's hilarious to see scums like Ellison and Byrd get free passes and excuses from the left while hard working American patriots like Jeff Sessions and Gorsuch are branded as sexist, racist, or hating the poor.  It's very entertaining to watch the left use these talking points for nearly a century.

What's hilarious is that 3 of the 10 Senators to endorse him for DNC chair were Jews. The idea that 3 Jewish Senators would endorse an anti-semite is pretty ridiculous.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2017, 07:27:22 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

Ellison just supported the most prominent Jew to ever run for President, though.

Sure if he's a Democrat he'll be defended but that doesn't change who he really is.  I'm sure his liberal politics takes precedent over his anti-Semitism.  It's hilarious to see scums like Ellison and Byrd get free passes and excuses from the left while hard working American patriots like Jeff Sessions and Gorsuch are branded as sexist, racist, or hating the poor.  It's very entertaining to watch the left use these talking points for nearly a century.

What's hilarious is that 3 of the 10 Senators to endorse him for DNC chair were Jews. The idea that 3 Jewish Senators would endorse an anti-semite is pretty ridiculous.
How many Jewish senators are they? Which party are they in? And Demicrats are anti-Semitic. Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2017, 08:23:02 pm »
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I'm going to go with either Jason Kander or Eric Greitens (both from Missouri).
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2017, 12:24:00 am »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

Please point me to a single incident of anti-Semitic violence from any type of antifa or leftists in general.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/keith-ellison-jews-are-slave-traders-trying-to-oppress-minorities-all-over-the-world/

I asked for an example of anti-Semitic violence. Not some poorly sourced second hand claims of some comments allegedly made 30 years ago.
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2017, 10:18:24 am »
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Sanders much too old by to be competitive any longer.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2017, 07:56:33 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Huh?

Bizarre statement.... are you talking about Antifas in the US, Germany, or where.... ?

1.) You do realize that generally the Antifa movement in the US is heavily Anarchist or Anarcho-Syndicalist, and to a lesser extent Libertarian Communists, Trots, Black Liberation Movement splinter groups and older activists whose history dates back to the Black Panther Party, Republic of New Afrika, etc....

2.) The US Antifa movement is generally mainly focused predominately on resistance against known White Supremacist movements (KKK, Aryan Nations, Neo-Nazi fringe organizations, etc....). International politics are not within the orbit of the overwhelming majority of Antifa chapters throughout the US.

3.) The disproportionate amount of American Antifas come from an Anarchist background, so inherently Anti-Nationalism is deeply baked into the movement. This means that ANY type of Nationalist movement will typically be met with extreme skepticism from the movement. Internationalist Solidarity is the key thread that has bound the movement together from its early origins in Germany in the 1980s with "Peace Punk" bands being the driving soundtrack of the resistance, against was an increasing movement towards Fascism among the youth of Europe during the recession of the late '70s and early '80s, and even longer in decaying factory towns...

We had to fight them on the streets of the Pacific Northwest in the mid to late '80s, from the big cities of Portland and Seattle, to the university towns of  Corvallis and Eugene, as well as the factory towns of Medford, Albany, and Salem, when their was a major investment of outside White Supremacist international capital to fund the "American Front" Neo-Nazi organization in the Pacific Northwest.

4.) Your argument sir "that the Antifa Left doesn't like Jewish Americans either" is extremely spurious at best, and appears to exhibit an extreme amount of ignorance regarding the US Antifa Movement (Of which I was involved in back in the late '80s to mid '90s), where the PacNW was ground zero of an attempt to create a "White Only' homeland based upon their "Bible" otherwise known as "The Turner Diaries...

5.) I can go into my interactions with Antifas in Europe from the UK, Germany, and France, and again sir you appear to be either an ignoramus or simply trying to set up a stray man argument without any knowledge of what you speak.

I will take a wild leap and say that Bernie Sanders will be the first Jewish American President....

If Clinton had won the GE in '16, I doubt he would have challenged her in the primaries in 2020, unless she shifted further to the Right, but now that there is an open field, the "Old Socialist Dude" from a small town Vermont deal, who actually has an economic message that appeals to many voters of both political parties feeling left behind, who isn't obsessed with banning guns and appeasing Multi-National Corporations (Like Democrats and Republicans alike have been doing for decades) will likely win.

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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2017, 09:37:30 pm »
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This isn't going to happen because of the growth of the alt-right. Anyone Jewish will be slandered to the point of ruin.

The Antifa left doesn't like Jewish Americans either.

Um, wrong. The "antifa left" dislikes pro-Israel politicians, whether they are Jewish or not. Left wing opposition to Israel has nothing to do with anti Semitism, unlike on the right.

When a movement believes that a political opinion held by the vast majority of Jews is grounds for violence against members of that group, that is de facto anti-semitism.

The antifa movement is aligned with the massively anti-semitic BDS movement and their tendency towards indiscriminate violence makes them a massive threat to the Jewish population, especially the centrist liberal majority.

I find it unlikely there'll be a Jewish president in the near future. Not enough conservative Jews, and the Dems are only going to become less friendly.

WTF is the BDS Movement???

This is an honest question and not troll fishing....

My older sister is Orthodox Jewish and generally sympathetic to the Antifa movement (Although as a pacifist she doesn't believe in "fighting fire with fire" and all that). I'm curious as to why she has never once mentioned this "organization" after many conversations over the years of political conversations...

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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2017, 09:42:05 pm »
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I think Trump is grooming both Jared and Ivanka to be future Presidents
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