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« on: April 18, 2017, 02:46:41 pm »
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What potential candidates could cause a "weird", in terms of causing an unusual state vote (i.e. a Republican that wins Wisconsin but not Ohio and a Democrat that wins Arizona but not Virginia), result in the general election?
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 04:12:24 pm »
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John Bell Edwards vs Charlie Baker could get kinda' funky.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2017, 04:44:50 pm »
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I'm not sure there are any. The election of 2016 cemented voter trends that have been in progress since at least the 1960s and in that sense was probably the "least funky" election of all time (1976 was the "funkiest" in modern times, as strange as that seems). Could the Dems nominate someone more populist than Bernie? Could the GOP nominate someone more moderate than Kasich? Doubtful. R and D primary voters determine our choices long before a single GE vote is cast. The best hope is for a 3rd party candidate to come along who pulls in all the disaffected voter groups (those who voted or would have voted Anderson '80, Perot '92, Perot '96, Nader '00, Stein '12 or '16, Johnson '12 or '16, etc.)
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 05:50:32 pm »
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John Bell Edwards vs Charlie Baker could get kinda' funky.

Add Steve Bullock to the Dem ticket and things could get interesting.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 05:58:31 pm »
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A complete dark horse.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2017, 11:16:08 am »
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Roy Cooper/John Bel Edwards against Charlie Baker/Jon Huntsman would be pretty interesting to watch, in addition to being an actually realistic scenario.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2017, 12:09:11 pm »
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Maybe a winning candidate chose a highly unconventional running mate and then didn't finish his or her term.  Then the unconventional Vice President becomes President and governs very differently from the party line, that would be interesting.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 12:58:53 pm »
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Roy Cooper/John Bel Edwards against Charlie Baker/Jon Huntsman would be pretty interesting to watch, in addition to being an actually realistic scenario.

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Anyway, why would Baker produce a weird result? He's like Romney without the Mormonism.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2017, 06:22:52 pm »
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Bullock, JBE, or a Mormon Democrat.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2017, 08:28:31 pm »
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Joe Manchin maybe, if he can get through the 2018 election.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2017, 10:08:58 pm »
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John Bell Edwards vs Charlie Baker could get kinda' funky.

God that would be a fascinating and no-lose race. Why aren't we that lucky?
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2017, 11:26:29 pm »
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Roy Cooper/John Bel Edwards against Charlie Baker/Jon Huntsman would be pretty interesting to watch, in addition to being an actually realistic scenario.

Lol

Anyway, why would Baker produce a weird result? He's like Romney without the Mormonism.

Baker is a genuinely popular moderate. Romney had virtually no appeal in the northeast, Baker would.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2017, 04:14:56 pm »
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Roy Cooper/John Bel Edwards against Charlie Baker/Jon Huntsman would be pretty interesting to watch, in addition to being an actually realistic scenario.

Lol

Anyway, why would Baker produce a weird result? He's like Romney without the Mormonism.

Baker is a genuinely popular moderate. Romney had virtually no appeal in the northeast, Baker would.

After going through a Republican primary? I doubt it.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2017, 04:19:12 pm »
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Roy Cooper/John Bel Edwards against Charlie Baker/Jon Huntsman would be pretty interesting to watch, in addition to being an actually realistic scenario.

Lol

Anyway, why would Baker produce a weird result? He's like Romney without the Mormonism.

Baker is a genuinely popular moderate. Romney had virtually no appeal in the northeast, Baker would.

After going through a Republican primary? I doubt it.

How do you think Baker would do if, because of some magic trick or whatever, he makes it out of the primary as a moderate?
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2017, 04:28:06 pm »
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Roy Cooper/John Bel Edwards against Charlie Baker/Jon Huntsman would be pretty interesting to watch, in addition to being an actually realistic scenario.

Lol

Anyway, why would Baker produce a weird result? He's like Romney without the Mormonism.

Baker is a genuinely popular moderate. Romney had virtually no appeal in the northeast, Baker would.

After going through a Republican primary? I doubt it.

How do you think Baker would do if, because of some magic trick or whatever, he makes it out of the primary as a moderate?

In that case he'd do better than average in suburbs, but not enough to win states like MA, or even CT or NJ.
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2017, 08:01:41 am »
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Jim Webb (moderate Dem, gets a lot of GOP support), Charlie Baker (liberal Rep., gets a lot of ind and some Dem support).
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2017, 01:37:01 pm »
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Sanders in a scenario where the economy had not entered recession during Trump presidency.
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