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BaldEagle1991
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« on: April 18, 2017, 05:07:30 PM »

Is there any possibility from 2020 and beyond that Wisconsin will be the reliable Midwestern red state along with Indiana?
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 05:17:14 PM »

Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are now deep red states. Democrats have a better chance at winning Alabama at this point. Trump is gonna win in a 1972 landslide in 2020; time to give up.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2017, 05:29:15 PM »

Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are now deep red states. Democrats have a better chance at winning Alabama at this point. Trump is gonna win in a 1972 landslide in 2020; time to give up.

Haha!

Wait, that was a joke, right?
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 05:37:45 PM »

Wisconsin, Michigan, Maine, and Pennsylvania are now deep red states. Democrats have a better chance at winning Alabama Wyoming at this point. Trump is gonna win in a 1972 landslide in 2020; time to give up.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 05:41:36 PM »

Yes, Wiscucksin is gone for us.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 05:49:14 PM »


Must you?
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 06:03:00 PM »

Trump won  by like 1% so of course it is
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2017, 06:09:24 PM »

lol
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2017, 07:57:32 PM »

Yeah I don't see how we could possibly win a state Trump won by less than 1% with 47% of the vote. No choice but to write it off.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 09:33:20 PM »

Yeah I don't see how we could possibly win a state Trump won by less than 1% with 47% of the vote. No choice but to write it off.

Yep, I mean, clearly a state Trump won by 9% or 800,000 votes is more winnable because "muh trends."
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2017, 09:51:18 PM »

Didn't Clinton go the entire campaign without stepping foot in Wisconsin (despite losing it in the primary by a good margin?) I mean, the GOP vote dropped by 2,000 and the Dem vote dropped by what, 150K? Most of which appears to have gone to third party vs 2012--a sign of disgust at the candidates and campaign incompetence more than a clear R swing.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2017, 11:02:13 PM »

Yeah I don't see how we could possibly win a state Trump won by less than 1% with 47% of the vote. No choice but to write it off.

Yep, I mean, clearly a state Trump won by 9% or 800,000 votes is more winnable because "muh trends."


It's all over. It's all over.

California will be a swing state because Trump will have a 99% approval rating and tremendous love from the Hispanics. Tacos for everyone courtesy of Mr. TRUMP.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 11:15:07 PM »

Yeah I don't see how we could possibly win a state Trump won by less than 1% with 47% of the vote. No choice but to write it off.

Yep, I mean, clearly a state Trump won by 9% or 800,000 votes is more winnable because "muh trends."


It's all over. It's all over.

California will be a swing state because Trump will have a 99% approval rating and tremendous love from the Hispanics. Tacos for everyone courtesy of Mr. TRUMP.

Thank you for your very productive and amusing posts such as this.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2017, 11:18:52 PM »

lol this is going to be a long four years
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2017, 11:21:50 PM »

Yeah I don't see how we could possibly win a state Trump won by less than 1% with 47% of the vote. No choice but to write it off.

Yep, I mean, clearly a state Trump won by 9% or 800,000 votes is more winnable because "muh trends."


It's all over. It's all over.

California will be a swing state because Trump will have a 99% approval rating and tremendous love from the Hispanics. Tacos for everyone courtesy of Mr. TRUMP.

Thank you for your very productive and amusing posts such as this.

I work so, so very hard on my productive posts. I truly hope that by the time I'm 33 I will have mastered the art.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2017, 01:15:45 AM »

If Democrats give up on the tipping-point state, they give up on the election.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2017, 09:07:22 AM »

It's definitely not deep-red, but the fact that Democrats are slowly but surely getting obliterated in statewide contests there and the Democratic challenger to Walker (whoever that may be) is being treated as DOA is concerning.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2017, 10:01:11 AM »

No, you fool; Republicans' rural gains will be offset by the WOW counties voting 80%+ Democratic, and it will be a blue state forever.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2017, 10:17:15 AM »

Well people are calling it Wississipi but in all seriousness Republicans aren't as loved right now in the state either. The dairy farms were all gung ho on Trump and now they're terrified. They are living scared because they need the illegal immigrants to survive and plants in Canada are no longer buying their milk so they'll have to start dumping soon. They're begging Trump to do something, it's sad and amusing at the same time.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2017, 10:36:50 AM »

I don't think either party has a good hold on it, but at the presidential level I still think it is Democrats with the advantage. Republicans winning it once in literally a generation with just a tiny win margin does not change this. If Trump or another Republican can win it again in 2020 with a better margin, then it might be worthy to reevaluate.

As far as statewide contests go, I think it is better to wait until 2018 before we draw conclusions. Republicans have strong control at the state level, but that could change pretty quickly under the right circumstances. Let's not forget that they were also beneficiaries of the anti-Democratic carnage over the past 8 years.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2017, 11:54:05 AM »

Well people are calling it Wississipi

That's cool. Are people really calling it that?

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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2017, 12:48:52 PM »
« Edited: April 19, 2017, 12:52:47 PM by MT Treasurer »

Seriously though, there is no sign that Wisconsin is still a Democratic-leaning state at the presidential level. A Tossup? Yes. But lean or likely D? No. Trump was an awful fit for the state and still won it, and it was basically tied in 2000 and 2004 as well. Ron Johnson decisively won a race that he was never supposed to win, especially in a presidential year.

Pre-election polls showed Kasich winning the state in a landslide against Clinton, Cruz and Rubio also led in most polls, IIRC.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2017, 12:55:24 PM »

Seriously though, there is no sign that Wisconsin is still a Democratic-leaning state at the presidential level. A Tossup? Yes. But lean or likely D? No. Trump was an awful fit for the state and still won it, and it was basically tied in 2000 and 2004 as well. Ron Johnson decisively won a race that he was never supposed to win, especially in a presidential year.

Pre-election polls showed Kasich winning the state in a landslide against Clinton, Cruz and Rubio also led in most polls, IIRC.

I agree with this, except for the "especially in a presidential year" part. What is with this Obama-era assumption that "presidential years" are inherently more Democratic?
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2017, 01:11:02 PM »

Well people are calling it Wississipi

That's cool. Are people really calling it that?



Some people, not many, usually the people that use it are pretty far left. Would take a very, very long time for Wisconsin to get anywhere as bad as Mississippi in anything.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2017, 03:27:10 PM »

No state with Madison + Milwaukee in it will ever be "deep" red.
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