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« on: April 19, 2017, 10:13:52 am »
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http://www.omaha.com/news/legislature/bill-to-make-nebraska-s-electoral-college-votes-winner-take/article_3f311cb0-2474-11e7-8c5e-2bbe9676ed9c.html

The GOP here in NE will never give this up. It is a part of their platform every election and if you want to run for the legislature with their blessing you have to pledge to revert back to winner take all.

What a bunch of hypocrites. Their cohorts in MA and CA are at the same time trying to move their states to the NE system.

I've argued this with my state senator who offered ridiculous contrived reasons and finally told him to cut the crap and admit it's just a mean spirited power grab. He wouldn't respond. They know it is and don't care. One of these days this thing is going to pass and my vote and may others in this state will be made meaningless.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 10:37:58 am »
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Interestingly, I just made a post about this topic on another board: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=262699.0

But yeah, I would not be surprised if GOP legislatures just begin doing whatever is best for their party in this regard, state by state.  Democrats will continue winning the PV nationwide in presidential elections, only to lose regardless because of Republican shenanigans.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2017, 04:26:28 pm »
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Everyone is going to support whatever electoral system is best for their party, which is fine and the way things should be.  I would hardly call it crazy for Nebraska to move to the system that 48 states use.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2017, 08:15:47 pm »
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I can't say I disagree with what they're doing, but they're doing it for really stupid, partisan reasons.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2017, 12:43:40 pm »
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what is needed for a change?

simple majority and gov or more?
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2017, 04:05:34 pm »
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http://www.omaha.com/news/legislature/bill-to-make-nebraska-s-electoral-college-votes-winner-take/article_3f311cb0-2474-11e7-8c5e-2bbe9676ed9c.html

The GOP here in NE will never give this up. It is a part of their platform every election and if you want to run for the legislature with their blessing you have to pledge to revert back to winner take all.

What a bunch of hypocrites. Their cohorts in MA and CA are at the same time trying to move their states to the NE system.

I've argued this with my state senator who offered ridiculous contrived reasons and finally told him to cut the crap and admit it's just a mean spirited power grab. He wouldn't respond. They know it is and don't care. One of these days this thing is going to pass and my vote and may others in this state will be made meaningless.

Are you saying you would be happy if MA and CA switched to the NE system?

If not, who is the hypocrite here?

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2017, 08:17:42 pm »
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I see no problem here and think there should be a universal national standard for the elections--either every state having winner-take-all, or use the national PV. Having smaller states that split the EVs leave it open for larger states to do the same, gerrymander the presidential vote, and then use these smaller states as precedent to validate it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2017, 02:34:29 am »
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http://www.omaha.com/news/legislature/bill-to-make-nebraska-s-electoral-college-votes-winner-take/article_3f311cb0-2474-11e7-8c5e-2bbe9676ed9c.html

The GOP here in NE will never give this up. It is a part of their platform every election and if you want to run for the legislature with their blessing you have to pledge to revert back to winner take all.

What a bunch of hypocrites. Their cohorts in MA and CA are at the same time trying to move their states to the NE system.

I've argued this with my state senator who offered ridiculous contrived reasons and finally told him to cut the crap and admit it's just a mean spirited power grab. He wouldn't respond. They know it is and don't care. One of these days this thing is going to pass and my vote and may others in this state will be made meaningless.

Are you saying you would be happy if MA and CA switched to the NE system?

If not, who is the hypocrite here?



Ideally you'd have all states switching to a 100% proportional system. In case of no majority, either it goes to a runoff or the biggest plurality becomes president.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 11:34:06 am »
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http://www.omaha.com/news/legislature/bill-to-make-nebraska-s-electoral-college-votes-winner-take/article_3f311cb0-2474-11e7-8c5e-2bbe9676ed9c.html

The GOP here in NE will never give this up. It is a part of their platform every election and if you want to run for the legislature with their blessing you have to pledge to revert back to winner take all.

What a bunch of hypocrites. Their cohorts in MA and CA are at the same time trying to move their states to the NE system.

I've argued this with my state senator who offered ridiculous contrived reasons and finally told him to cut the crap and admit it's just a mean spirited power grab. He wouldn't respond. They know it is and don't care. One of these days this thing is going to pass and my vote and may others in this state will be made meaningless.

I do not believe there is any such thing as a meaningless vote.  If you vote for who and what you believe in, your vote is never useless.

Just because California Democrats in the 2016 Presidential election cried because the election was over before it even got to California, and they said their votes were useless, does not make it so.

And FTR, I support this move by the Nebraska GOP.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2017, 03:36:45 pm »
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I can't say I disagree with what they're doing, but they're doing it for really stupid, partisan reasons.

Yeah, this. Something tells me Republicans would be humming a different tune if we were talking about Maine.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2017, 12:08:40 am »
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http://www.omaha.com/news/legislature/bill-to-make-nebraska-s-electoral-college-votes-winner-take/article_3f311cb0-2474-11e7-8c5e-2bbe9676ed9c.html

The GOP here in NE will never give this up. It is a part of their platform every election and if you want to run for the legislature with their blessing you have to pledge to revert back to winner take all.

What a bunch of hypocrites. Their cohorts in MA and CA are at the same time trying to move their states to the NE system.

I've argued this with my state senator who offered ridiculous contrived reasons and finally told him to cut the crap and admit it's just a mean spirited power grab. He wouldn't respond. They know it is and don't care. One of these days this thing is going to pass and my vote and may others in this state will be made meaningless.

Are you saying you would be happy if MA and CA switched to the NE system?

If not, who is the hypocrite here?



Ideally you'd have all states switching to a 100% proportional system. In case of no majority, either it goes to a runoff or the biggest plurality becomes president.

I do hope you're not talking about going by congressional district, because not only would we have the national PV winner not winning the EVs, but you'd have the state PV winner not winning all of a state's EVs in many cases...
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