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Question: French presidential election 2017 : Is the Socialist Party facing extinction?
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« on: April 20, 2017, 06:23:19 AM »
« edited: April 20, 2017, 10:33:35 AM by Kalwejt »

We are 3 days from the first round of the 2017 French presidential election and Benoit Hamon, the Socialist presidential nominee, has only 7,5 % of the voting intentions and sounds likely to receive less than 10 % of the vote at the first round, which I think would be the worst electoral performance of the Socialist Party in all its history.

Many French Socialists shifted their allegeance and are voting either for Emmanuel Macron or Jean-Luc Mélenchon.

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2017, 08:30:39 AM »

IMO it will become Macron's party. Macron will be the ultimate savior of PS. In 2022 PS will step aside and  ramp up support for Macron (secretly, because they don't want to damage Macron's conviction as a tilt-left centrist).
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2017, 09:43:18 AM »

Yeah, the situation is more dire than PvdA and the Canadian Liberals in 2011.

I could see the party fracture along center-leaning, and left-leaning. The Macronistes and Hamonistes, if you will.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2017, 12:32:15 PM »

Depends really on who gets into the run-off and who ultimately wins. Ultimately all the parties at this stage in the Fifth Republic - PS, LR, FN, FG and their numerous auxiliaries and orbitals - are vulnerable to shifts and twists.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2017, 12:37:29 PM »

PS will likely suffer the same fate as SFIO: utterly humiliated in the 1969 election, had to disband and join what later became the PS. This will be another incarnation.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2017, 12:39:00 PM »

PS will likely suffer the same fate as SFIO: utterly humiliated in the 1969 election, had to disband and join what later became the PS. This will be another incarnation.

I don't know if Macron can pull off the same trick as Mitterrand though, if that's your implication.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2017, 12:44:30 PM »

PS will likely suffer the same fate as SFIO: utterly humiliated in the 1969 election, had to disband and join what later became the PS. This will be another incarnation.

I don't know if Macron can pull off the same trick as Mitterrand though, if that's your implication.

I think PS undergoing some sort of reset is inevitable, Macron or no Macron. Actually, to me he seems more like a new VGE than Mitterrand: a leader of minor party catapulted to the Presidency in a weird election season, and then forced to rely on some larger party (like Giscard relied on Chirac and RPR).

I wonder if Valls thought of pulling Chirac by endorsing Macron, like Jacques ditched Chaban in 1974, in order to gain influence under Macron.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2017, 10:24:16 PM »

Ask me in 6 months or so.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 05:32:22 AM »

It might end up like the Radicals, or the "Centrists", a pointless rump hanging on to En Marche, while La France Insoumise take up the mantle of main left wing party.
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