Centrist, anti-EU party?

[Libertarian in Name Only]

It seems to me that all the centrist parties are pro-EU, and a lot of the far-left and far-right parties are anti-EU. Why isn't there a centrist, anti-EU party and if there was would it be successful?

[Barnes]

The Liberal Party in Britain, apparently.

[Tintrlvr]

I think some of the agrarian parties in Scandinavia are softly Eurosceptic.

The Five Star Movement in Italy is self-declared as centrist (and definitely draws voters from across the political spectrum) and is very Eurosceptic.

The UK Liberal Party doesn't count; it's too irrelevant.

[Libertarian in Name Only]

I think some of the agrarian parties in Scandinavia are softly Eurosceptic.

The Five Star Movement in Italy is self-declared as centrist (and definitely draws voters from across the political spectrum) and is very Eurosceptic.

The UK Liberal Party doesn't count; it's too irrelevant.

I thought a lot of those Scandinavian parties were pro-EU since they are members of ALDE but I'm not sure.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

The original iteration of AfD was basically national liberalism. But that was when Euroscepticism was primarily based around not giving money to those damn Greeks rather than opposition to immigration.

Austria had the Hans Peter List as well.

AlDE, even for a European Party, is a meaningless coalition of disparate strands.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The original iteration of AfD was basically national liberalism. But that was when Euroscepticism was primarily based around not giving money to those damn Greeks rather than opposition to immigration.

Austria had the Hans Peter List as well.

I'll let this one pass, but next time please write Au**ria instead.

Thanks.

[ApatheticAustrian]

It seems to me that all the centrist parties are pro-EU, and a lot of the far-left and far-right parties are anti-EU. Why isn't there a centrist, anti-EU party and if there was would it be successful?

the eu is a project of cooperation and mutual success, it would be kind of masochistic to rage against it from the center.

[parochial boy]

Centrist parties in non-EU member states aren't necessarily pro-EU either

In Switzerland, the PDC are basically pro the status quo, it's the Socialists who love Europe.

[Bismarck]

If I was European I would support a softly eurosceptic centrist party, depending on where they came out on the other issues. It seems to me that the EU is good as an economic and diplomatic project but runs into trouble when it begins to step on the sovereignty of its member states.

[DavidB.]

What does "centrist" mean here?

[ApatheticAustrian]

What does "centrist" mean here?

sounds like "non-populist".

[DavidB.]

What does "centrist" mean here?

sounds like "non-populist".

Well, being euroskeptical seems one of the features of a populist party nowadays, so by definition it will be difficult to find a party that's centrist and "anti-EU". Dutch CU is a non-populist and centrist euroskeptical party but I don't know whether their soft euroskepticism would truly qualify them as "anti-EU". I personally tend to see RRWPs such as DF and PVV as "centrist" economically but I guess that's not what the one who posed this question really means.

[Libertarian in Name Only]

What does "centrist" mean here?

sounds like "non-populist".

Well, being euroskeptical seems one of the features of a populist party nowadays, so by definition it will be difficult to find a party that's centrist and "anti-EU". Dutch CU is a non-populist and centrist euroskeptical party but I don't know whether their soft euroskepticism would truly qualify them as "anti-EU". I personally tend to see RRWPs such as DF and PVV as "centrist" economically but I guess that's not what the one who posed this question really means.

I guess by centrist I mean parties that aren't far-left or far right.

[Beet]

The CDU is anti-EU, since it, along with all other centrist German parties, has no problem with that country's crushing trade surplus.

[Kingpoleon]

Centrist parties in non-EU member states aren't necessarily pro-EU either

In Switzerland, the PDC are basically pro the status quo, it's the Socialists who love Europe.

Who are the "PDC"?

Edit: Never mind, I just realized you were a Francophone person in Switzerland.

[buritobr]

United Russia (Putin's party) is a centrist anti-EU party, but is not located in an EU member

[IceAgeComing]

What does "centrist" mean here?

sounds like "non-populist".

Well, being euroskeptical seems one of the features of a populist party nowadays, so by definition it will be difficult to find a party that's centrist and "anti-EU". Dutch CU is a non-populist and centrist euroskeptical party but I don't know whether their soft euroskepticism would truly qualify them as "anti-EU". I personally tend to see RRWPs such as DF and PVV as "centrist" economically but I guess that's not what the one who posed this question really means.

I guess by centrist I mean parties that aren't far-left or far right.

so "liberal" then

United Russia (Putin's party) is a centrist anti-EU party, but is not located in an EU member

ahahahaha nice joke

[DavidB.]

The CDU is anti-EU, since it, along with all other centrist German parties, has no problem with that country's crushing trade surplus.

edgy

United Russia (Putin's party) is a centrist anti-EU party, but is not located in an EU member

edgy

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The Liberal Party in Britain, apparently.

Interesting. Who was more anti-EU, Gladstone or Rosebery?

Oh wait, I didn't know of another Liberal Party.

[Santander]

What does "centrist" mean here?

Loving both big business and big government.

[Tintrlvr]

The Liberal Party in Britain, apparently.

Interesting. Who was more anti-EU, Gladstone or Rosebery?

Oh wait, I didn't know of another Liberal Party.

Not sure if you're just joking or not, but the UK Liberal Party was a splinter group from the old party who left in part because of the merger with the Social Democratic Party to form the Lib Dems but mostly because they opposed EU membership and the euro, while the Lib Dems support both (but keep quiet on the latter these days).

It has a small number of local government councillors scattered around the country, most concentrated in Liverpool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(UK,_1989)

[Barnes]

The Liberal Party in Britain, apparently.

Interesting. Who was more anti-EU, Gladstone or Rosebery?

Oh wait, I didn't know of another Liberal Party.

Not sure if you're just joking or not, but the UK Liberal Party was a splinter group from the old party who left in part because of the merger with the Social Democratic Party to form the Lib Dems but mostly because they opposed EU membership and the euro, while the Lib Dems support both (but keep quiet on the latter these days).

It has a small number of local government councillors scattered around the country, most concentrated in Liverpool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(UK,_1989)

Well, I'm being perfectly serious in reference to the Liberal cadiver which still randomly appears at council elections. The old Liberals were quite pro Common Market, but there was always a small anti-EEC grouping. The SDP was much more inflexible in its support for the Community.

[Tintrlvr]

The Liberal Party in Britain, apparently.

Interesting. Who was more anti-EU, Gladstone or Rosebery?

Oh wait, I didn't know of another Liberal Party.

Not sure if you're just joking or not, but the UK Liberal Party was a splinter group from the old party who left in part because of the merger with the Social Democratic Party to form the Lib Dems but mostly because they opposed EU membership and the euro, while the Lib Dems support both (but keep quiet on the latter these days).

It has a small number of local government councillors scattered around the country, most concentrated in Liverpool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(UK,_1989)

Well, I'm being perfectly serious in reference to the Liberal cadiver which still randomly appears at council elections. The old Liberals were quite pro Common Market, but there was always a small anti-EEC grouping. The SDP was much more inflexible in its support for the Community.

Ironically, the continuing Liberals were originally a personal vehicle for Michael Meadowcroft, who long ago joined the Lib Dems. Now it just seems to be Steve Radford (who?) and his random followers.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

The Liberal Party in Britain, apparently.

Interesting. Who was more anti-EU, Gladstone or Rosebery?

Oh wait, I didn't know of another Liberal Party.

Not sure if you're just joking or not, but the UK Liberal Party was a splinter group from the old party who left in part because of the merger with the Social Democratic Party to form the Lib Dems but mostly because they opposed EU membership and the euro, while the Lib Dems support both (but keep quiet on the latter these days).

It has a small number of local government councillors scattered around the country, most concentrated in Liverpool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(UK,_1989)

Well, I'm being perfectly serious in reference to the Liberal cadiver which still randomly appears at council elections. The old Liberals were quite pro Common Market, but there was always a small anti-EEC grouping. The SDP was much more inflexible in its support for the Community.

The new SDP is very eurosceptic, from their own website:
"Brexit was a victory for democracy and accountability over lobbyists and bureaucracy.
The Social Democratic Party has a very positive vision of Brexit and, for that vision to be realised, we must ensure that the powers returned to our elected representatives are used to benefit society as a whole, rather than merely elements of it. "

[Kingpoleon]

What does "centrist" mean here?

Loving both big business and big government.

The last centrist President, Gerald Ford, was despised by big business, big labor, and big government, which will forever keep my opinion of such an esteemed gentleman high.