For lefties only: more evil, traditional conservatives or libertarians?

[buritobr]

Considering these two groups, which one do the lefties here in this forum consider worse?

[Kingpoleon]

I hope few lefties consider the likes of either evil. Of course, the edgy left trio of Maxwell, Antonio V, and Scott will probably pick this apart, though.

[DC Al Fine]

Clearly traddies

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I hope few lefties consider the likes of either evil. Of course, the edgy left trio of Maxwell, Antonio V, and Scott will probably pick this apart, though.

Eh?  I'm not sure how myself, Maxwell, Antonio fit into any kind of "trio."  We're each very different people apart from the fact that we all fit somewhere on the left spectrum.  "Edgy?"  I don't think that word applies to any of us, really.  I like to shtpost here sometimes, yes, but that's mostly for my own amusement, especially when I'm on my bad days.

If you were expecting us to post sage effortposts or whatever about what 'evil' is, you certainly won't be getting one from me.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Neither are 'evil', but I like Libertarians more.

[LLR]

Libertarians are a much, much worse evil. At least some traditional conservatives mean well, and are outside of the top 1%.

[RFayette]

Clearly traddies

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I prefer somebody who worships Yahweh or what have you than somebody who worships mammon.

[Santander]

I identify as a moderate true conservative libertarian with a populist streak.

[ApatheticAustrian]

depends.

in the ideal version libertarianism would be worse.....

in reality, issue for issue question.

[Kingpoleon]

I hope few lefties consider the likes of either evil. Of course, the edgy left trio of Maxwell, Antonio V, and Scott will probably pick this apart, though.

Eh?  I'm not sure how myself, Maxwell, Antonio fit into any kind of "trio."  We're each very different people apart from the fact that we all fit somewhere on the left spectrum.  "Edgy?"  I don't think that word applies to any of us, really.  I like to shtpost here sometimes, yes, but that's mostly for my own amusement, especially when I'm on my bad days.

If you were expecting us to post sage effortposts or whatever about what 'evil' is, you certainly won't be getting one from me.

You three all:
1. Regularly make long posts.
2. Have a hatred of me for some reason.
3. Have similar reactions to things.
4. Make similarly stupid comments.

I'm not quite sure how people with such different PM scores all have such similar styles.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Neither are necessarily "evil", but the libertarian worldview (especially in its softcore, stylistically "moderate " form) is much more dangerous, social conditions being what they currently are.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

I identify as a moderate true conservative libertarian with a populist streak.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I hope few lefties consider the likes of either evil. Of course, the edgy left trio of Maxwell, Antonio V, and Scott will probably pick this apart, though.

Eh?  I'm not sure how myself, Maxwell, Antonio fit into any kind of "trio."  We're each very different people apart from the fact that we all fit somewhere on the left spectrum.  "Edgy?"  I don't think that word applies to any of us, really.  I like to shtpost here sometimes, yes, but that's mostly for my own amusement, especially when I'm on my bad days.

If you were expecting us to post sage effortposts or whatever about what 'evil' is, you certainly won't be getting one from me.

You three all:
1. Regularly make long posts.
2. Have a hatred of me for some reason.
3. Have similar reactions to things.
4. Make similarly stupid comments.

I'm not quite sure how people with such different PM scores all have such similar styles.

1. Most of my posts are like, two sentences.  A paragraph at most.
2. Speaking for myself at least, I don't hate you and I don't know where you got the impression that I do.
3. I'm not quite sure what this means but each of us live very different lives and we don't all agree on the same things.
4. Um, okay?

[Goldwater]

Assuming that I count as leftists, which obviously I shouldn't but whatever, I would have to say  nationalistic right-populism is worse than either of these two.

[Beet]

I think some people are confusing 'libertarian' with plutocrat. When I think libertarian, the image of a guy at the college student activities fair pushing the Political Compass on people comes to mind. Plutocrats are not libertarians by any means, for instance they'll gladly accept corporate welfare.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

The ones who smile when gay kids commit suicide.

[Kingpoleon]

I identify as a moderate true conservative libertarian with a populist streak.

All that and a bag of chips.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

The ones who smile when gay kids commit suicide.

In what world does this describe a significant portion of traditional conservatives?

Its something of an exaggeration, but american social conservatism is built upon hurting people who are different, tends to be horribly racist, etc. Doesn't help that they tend to have as bad or worse attitudes about the poor as libertarians(who are often more naive as to what actually helps people then bad people)

[RINO Tom]

The ones who smile when gay kids commit suicide.

In what world does this describe a significant portion of traditional conservatives?

Its something of an exaggeration, but american social conservatism is built upon hurting people who are different, tends to be horribly racist, etc. Doesn't help that they tend to have as bad or worse attitudes about the poor as libertarians(who are often more naive as to what actually helps people then bad people)

Ya think?  Also, have you ever met any real life liberals, dude?!  Plenty of racist ones.  Or are they "socially conservative" on that issue?  LOL, GMAFB.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

The ones who smile when gay kids commit suicide.

In what world does this describe a significant portion of traditional conservatives?

Its something of an exaggeration, but american social conservatism is built upon hurting people who are different, tends to be horribly racist, etc. Doesn't help that they tend to have as bad or worse attitudes about the poor as libertarians(who are often more naive as to what actually helps people then bad people)

Ya think?  Also, have you ever met any real life liberals, dude?!  Plenty of racist ones.  Or are they "socially conservative" on that issue?  LOL, GMAFB.

I never claimed that there isn't a chunk of the left that is really bad about race. But this topic isn't about the left. It's about the right. I know quite a lot of liberals, and the liberals who are regressive about race are not as bad about it as many dedicated conservatives, with some exceptions(Seth Macfarlane comes to mind). A significant chunk of republicans in office are pretty openly racist. The current republican president won partially by catering to racist sentiments.

PS: Never call me "dude".

[RFayette]

The ones who smile when gay kids commit suicide.

In what world does this describe a significant portion of traditional conservatives?

Its something of an exaggeration, but american social conservatism is built upon hurting people who are different, tends to be horribly racist, etc. Doesn't help that they tend to have as bad or worse attitudes about the poor as libertarians(who are often more naive as to what actually helps people then bad people)

As someone who is a social conservative and knows many, none of what your say is true.  Please leave your hyperbole elswewhere.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Neither are necessarily "evil", but the libertarian worldview (especially in its softcore, stylistically "moderate " form) is much more dangerous, social conditions being what they currently are.

This.

[Antonio the Sixth]

american social conservatism is built upon hurting people who are different, tends to be horribly racist, etc.

You are right, but the exact same can be said American economic conservatism. And they have been far more successful in hurting people.

[Mr. Smith]

american social conservatism is built upon hurting people who are different, tends to be horribly racist, etc.

You are right, but the exact same can be said American economic conservatism. And they have been far more successful in hurting people.

This is because social conservatism ultimately just wants people rewarded for good things for the right reasons and doesn't instantly or apathetically accept whatever the hell label or identity is given and then attack everyone else for not being so instant.

Economic conservatism/libertarianism rewards people for success regardless of the ways in which they get it.