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« on: April 24, 2017, 09:37:20 PM »

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/entire-senate-being-called-to-white-house-for-north-korea-briefing/ar-BBAhsXY?li=BBnb4R7

Wouldn't a closed-door session of Congress be better? What's the deal?
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2017, 09:40:20 PM »

This sounds serious.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2017, 09:44:24 PM »


Please no. NK has nukes ffs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2017, 09:46:25 PM »

Actually it cant be anything too serious (not yet at least), because if it were, only the "selected" few important Senators would be called (those within the Gang of Eight).

Sounds like bluffing to get NK attention .... and it doesn't take much to get Kim's attention.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 10:18:21 PM »


Trump has a large but fragile ego.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 10:21:18 PM »


They have nukes but they have no launching capabilties.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2017, 10:23:30 PM »


They have nukes but they have no launching capabilties.

What are you talking about ?
They do have tested and proved short-range launch vehicles (missiles).
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM »


They have nukes but they have no launching capabilties.

What are you talking about ?
They do have tested and proved short-range launch vehicles (missiles).

Yeah, this. They can't hit us, but they can hit a number of our allied nations that are neighboring NK.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 10:59:13 PM »

There's also suitcase nukes, smuggled onto a fishing ship that heads to San Francisco bay...
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2017, 11:00:42 PM »


They have nukes but they have no launching capabilties.

What are you talking about ?
They do have tested and proved short-range launch vehicles (missiles).

Yeah, this. They can't hit us, but they can hit a number of our allied nations that are neighboring NK.

God knows how many people could be killed in Seoul alone in the event of a war with North Korea. This is an incredibly dangerous situation to be playing with.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2017, 08:16:45 AM »

Yes, it's a dangerous situation, granted, but one that needed to be made. NK will, sooner or later, sooner in some estimates have the proper guidance systems and miniaturization skills needed to hit us. I'd rather we take action now and solve the issue than wait until fat boy Kim decides to nuke SK, Japan, and the West Coast, or other US areas if he improves on his ICBMs.

In terms of casualties, 100K to 200K in the opening week depending on retaliatory force, artillery, etc. It's not a war the millennials would like to see on the TV but then again the millennials are a weak bunch to begin with. Of all the crazy regimes in the world, DPRK is the one that if war was to occur (mind you the 1953 armistice is still in effect so we are still technically at war) it would be validated by the global community.

Yeah, please do go on. Millenials are the generation that have had it the hardest from the current bunch. From quality job availability, to cost of living, to cost of education, to cost of big purchases, to wage, certainly, Millenials are weak, and they've had it easy. Boomers reaped the land until it was out of nutrients and then salted it.

Give me a break.
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2017, 08:24:13 AM »

Yes, it's a dangerous situation, granted, but one that needed to be made. NK will, sooner or later, sooner in some estimates have the proper guidance systems and miniaturization skills needed to hit us. I'd rather we take action now and solve the issue than wait until fat boy Kim decides to nuke SK, Japan, and the West Coast, or other US areas if he improves on his ICBMs.

In terms of casualties, 100K to 200K in the opening week depending on retaliatory force, artillery, etc. It's not a war the millennials would like to see on the TV but then again the millennials are a weak bunch to begin with. Of all the crazy regimes in the world, DPRK is the one that if war was to occur (mind you the 1953 armistice is still in effect so we are still technically at war) it would be validated by the global community.

If you think the global community is going to support a war with 100K to 200K deaths in the first week alone I think you're mistaken. Polls shows the South Koreans and Japanese don't want a war (they don't want to die), the Chinese don't want a war, the Americans don't want a war (recent polls show the vast majority favor diplomacy), the Russians don't want a war, and of course the North Koreans don't want to be annihilated. So who, exactly, supports this hundreds of thousands of deaths holocaust? Just a few internet keyboard warriors and the nutbags in the Trump administration.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2017, 08:53:16 AM »

Yes, it's a dangerous situation, granted, but one that needed to be made. NK will, sooner or later, sooner in some estimates have the proper guidance systems and miniaturization skills needed to hit us. I'd rather we take action now and solve the issue than wait until fat boy Kim decides to nuke SK, Japan, and the West Coast, or other US areas if he improves on his ICBMs.

In terms of casualties, 100K to 200K in the opening week depending on retaliatory force, artillery, etc. It's not a war the millennials would like to see on the TV but then again the millennials are a weak bunch to begin with. Of all the crazy regimes in the world, DPRK is the one that if war was to occur (mind you the 1953 armistice is still in effect so we are still technically at war) it would be validated by the global community.

If you think the global community is going to support a war with 100K to 200K deaths in the first week alone I think you're mistaken. Polls shows the South Koreans and Japanese don't want a war (they don't want to die), the Chinese don't want a war, the Americans don't want a war (recent polls show the vast majority favor diplomacy), the Russians don't want a war, and of course the North Koreans don't want to be annihilated. So who, exactly, supports this hundreds of thousands of deaths holocaust? Just a few internet keyboard warriors and the nutbags in the Trump administration.

No one wants that many deaths but in terms of numbers that is what would happen, maybe it would be tens of thousands within the opening salvos but in terms of BDA, analysts deal with numbers not emotions. As far as the politics of it goes, China would be glad to see us and SK take Kim out and sit north of the Yalu. Post-conflict, there are two options: they wait it out or push south to create a new PRC province. SK and Japan don't want war but are prepared for any scenario.

If you know it's going to happen and you still advocate bringing it about, then yeah, you functionally are responsible. SK and Japan are not prepared, there's no way to prepare for a massive artillery barrage and/or a nuclear strike on your cities. And no, China would not be glad to see NK taken out, there's a possibility they would intervene on the North Korean side to preserve a semblance of the NK state, as they see it as a necessary buffer to the U.S. on their border. The U.S. could easily get into a war with China by accidentally striking Chinese troops in such a scenario or vice versa if the Chinese accidentally strike U.S. troops. The only way they would agree to a unified Korea is if U.S. troops were removed altogether beforehand.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2017, 08:58:02 AM »

Yes, it's a dangerous situation, granted, but one that needed to be made. NK will, sooner or later, sooner in some estimates have the proper guidance systems and miniaturization skills needed to hit us. I'd rather we take action now and solve the issue than wait until fat boy Kim decides to nuke SK, Japan, and the West Coast, or other US areas if he improves on his ICBMs.

In terms of casualties, 100K to 200K in the opening week depending on retaliatory force, artillery, etc. It's not a war the millennials would like to see on the TV but then again the millennials are a weak bunch to begin with. Of all the crazy regimes in the world, DPRK is the one that if war was to occur (mind you the 1953 armistice is still in effect so we are still technically at war) it would be validated by the global community.

If you think the global community is going to support a war with 100K to 200K deaths in the first week alone I think you're mistaken. Polls shows the South Koreans and Japanese don't want a war (they don't want to die), the Chinese don't want a war, the Americans don't want a war (recent polls show the vast majority favor diplomacy), the Russians don't want a war, and of course the North Koreans don't want to be annihilated. So who, exactly, supports this hundreds of thousands of deaths holocaust? Just a few internet keyboard warriors and the nutbags in the Trump administration.

No one wants that many deaths but in terms of numbers that is what would happen, maybe it would be tens of thousands within the opening salvos but in terms of BDA, analysts deal with numbers not emotions. As far as the politics of it goes, China would be glad to see us and SK take Kim out and sit north of the Yalu. Post-conflict, there are two options: they wait it out or push south to create a new PRC province. SK and Japan don't want war but are prepared for any scenario.

Wow. Atlas has its very own Buck Turgidson.
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2017, 09:31:41 AM »

I think VirginiaModerate should be taken to said war if it does happen. Before taking more people, make sure all the vets get rounded up and pressed back into some type of service first before taking the rest of us.
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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2017, 09:45:12 AM »

Yes, it's a dangerous situation, granted, but one that needed to be made. NK will, sooner or later, sooner in some estimates have the proper guidance systems and miniaturization skills needed to hit us. I'd rather we take action now and solve the issue than wait until fat boy Kim decides to nuke SK, Japan, and the West Coast, or other US areas if he improves on his ICBMs.

In terms of casualties, 100K to 200K in the opening week depending on retaliatory force, artillery, etc. It's not a war the millennials would like to see on the TV but then again the millennials are a weak bunch to begin with. Of all the crazy regimes in the world, DPRK is the one that if war was to occur (mind you the 1953 armistice is still in effect so we are still technically at war) it would be validated by the global community.

If you think the global community is going to support a war with 100K to 200K deaths in the first week alone I think you're mistaken. Polls shows the South Koreans and Japanese don't want a war (they don't want to die), the Chinese don't want a war, the Americans don't want a war (recent polls show the vast majority favor diplomacy), the Russians don't want a war, and of course the North Koreans don't want to be annihilated. So who, exactly, supports this hundreds of thousands of deaths holocaust? Just a few internet keyboard warriors and the nutbags in the Trump administration.

No one wants that many deaths but in terms of numbers that is what would happen, maybe it would be tens of thousands within the opening salvos but in terms of BDA, analysts deal with numbers not emotions. As far as the politics of it goes, China would be glad to see us and SK take Kim out and sit north of the Yalu. Post-conflict, there are two options: they wait it out or push south to create a new PRC province. SK and Japan don't want war but are prepared for any scenario.

Wow. Atlas has its very own Buck Turgidson.

I'm not Buck (great movie reference) but I am a Navy vet, have done exercises in Korean waters, and know about the policy, currently in defense. So very well informed on this issue as opposed to say an 18 yr old or a college kid.

It certainly doesn't show in your analysis.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2017, 10:34:02 AM »

How about our fearless leader be the first into battle?

He cowardly got himself out of one stupid war in Vietnam, he owes his country the same he's going to expect of those in our military.
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2017, 10:37:50 AM »

Let's dispel with the fiction North Korea wants to launch ICBMs on the US first.
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2017, 12:12:23 PM »


They have nukes but they have no launching capabilties.

I also just found this today (Thursday April 27th) ....

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2017, 12:24:24 PM »


And, exactly as predicted:


Yes, Donald Trump set up senators for a photo op on North Korea

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politics/donald-trump-north-korea-senators-meeting/
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2017, 12:55:02 PM »

And, exactly as predicted:

Yes, Donald Trump set up senators for a photo op on North Korea

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politics/donald-trump-north-korea-senators-meeting/
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Great !!
Can't wait to see trump's tweets bragging about how all 100 Senators "support him."
The orange-haired clown's fake news will surely fool the un-educated and deplorable segment of his base.
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