Hispanic Racial Origin Theory: Why It Developed in L. Am. but not USA and Canada
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Kingpoleon
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:00:59 PM »

Rather obviously, most of the Hispanic population in Latin America has majority Iberian blood yet notably darker skin on average than would be expected. Obviously, this means Iberian culture for some reason has an ability to rather quickly develop melanin as needed. This is broadly not the case in majority English/French/German background people who have mixed racial background with natives.

So, after some research and thinking, the thought occurred to me as to who the ancestors of the Iberians are. Sure, mostly Roman/Charlemagnian in commonly known origin, but Carthinaginian and the Arab Caliphate as well as further Muslim rule over Iberia are the probable reasons. Furthermore, those with darker skin and so more Muslim/Middle Eastern ancestry, most common in southeastern Iberia, the last stronghold of Granada, were probably seen as slightly below the lighter skinned rulers of Siberia. For that reason, they would be more likely to immigrate. Their skin, more adaptable to climates because of how different the climates in India and Pakistan, the modern day equivalents of the eastern Caliphate, and the climates of the west, modern day Spain, Portugal, and even part of France, were.

Is this theory of racial origin likely?
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 09:34:04 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2017, 09:35:57 PM by mencken »

Occam's Razor would dictate that greater genetic contribution from the darker-skinned indigenous population already present in Mesoamerica and South America might be a more plausible explanation for darker skin in current populations than the Lysenkoist mechanism which you propose.

It's quite amazing how the Iberians who colonized areas with sparser indigenous populations (e.g. Patagonia) do not demonstrate this chameleonesque pigmentation.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 01:44:41 AM »

Occam's Razor would dictate that greater genetic contribution from the darker-skinned indigenous population already present in Mesoamerica and South America might be a more plausible explanation for darker skin in current populations than the Lysenkoist mechanism which you propose.

It's quite amazing how the Iberians who colonized areas with sparser indigenous populations (e.g. Patagonia) do not demonstrate this chameleonesque pigmentation.

Adaptation to environment can be heavily boosted by outside factors like indigenous people having larger numbers.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 06:13:12 PM »

Occam's Razor would dictate that greater genetic contribution from the darker-skinned indigenous population already present in Mesoamerica and South America might be a more plausible explanation for darker skin in current populations than the Lysenkoist mechanism which you propose.

It's quite amazing how the Iberians who colonized areas with sparser indigenous populations (e.g. Patagonia) do not demonstrate this chameleonesque pigmentation.

Uh yeah I don't think this is even disputed is it?
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 06:43:47 PM »

Occam's Razor would dictate that greater genetic contribution from the darker-skinned indigenous population already present in Mesoamerica and South America might be a more plausible explanation for darker skin in current populations than the Lysenkoist mechanism which you propose.

It's quite amazing how the Iberians who colonized areas with sparser indigenous populations (e.g. Patagonia) do not demonstrate this chameleonesque pigmentation.

Uh yeah I don't think this is even disputed is it?

The OP did not get the memo apparently...

Rather obviously, most of the Hispanic population in Latin America has majority Iberian blood yet notably darker skin on average than would be expected. Obviously, this means Iberian culture for some reason has an ability to rather quickly develop melanin as needed.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 08:30:06 AM »

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As other said, Latinos are (generally, there are exceptions in places where there wasn't as much fraternization with the locals) darker skinned than Spaniards because of the all native blood.  A little African blood too, but the Spanish didn't import as many as the English did, not because they were better, they just used/abused the locals.
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2017, 05:27:57 PM »

It's interesting to note that no one has mentioned the thing I expected everyone to - namely, the expulsion of the Moriscos before most European immigration to the Americas to occur. It's interesting to note that those who enter a History forum lack general knowledge such as that - not to derogate any of you for that. I just wished to comment that.
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