Jesus seems to hate some things. Do you? Is hate good?

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WI: socially peace but fiscally sword

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Probably not helpful to post a quotation from Genesis which is the same book in which the entire world is wiped out in a flood. Again, something I wouldn't do.

Unfortunately for the world, there were fewer than ten righteous men in the whole joint. Those there were, however, were saved.

You're conflating the Flood story with the Cities of the Plain story.

Also, this is just my opinion, but I think the OT/NT moral theology distinction is overplayed to the point of frequent disingenuousness and typically used (by Christians) in the service of terrible "dispensationalist" (at best) theology or (by non-Christians) in the service of an attempt to maintain a high view of Jesus that I don't think a secular worldview should really be expected to support. There are numerous passages of overflowing mercy and benevolence in the Hebrew Bible and not a few passages of terrifying harshness and judgment in the Gospels.

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Unfortunately for the world, there were fewer than ten righteous men in the whole joint. Those there were, however, were saved.

You're conflating the Flood story with the Cities of the Plain story.

No, I'm extrapolating: If God would spare an entire city for the sake of ten righteous men, how far beyond redemption was the antediluvian world?

That, actually, is an interesting question. Sorry for making assumptions.

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Can you love the one raping your wife or child?

Sure. What if your daughter rapes your wife?

Part of that teaching is Jesus' no divorce law. He agreed with Yahweh who said let no man put asunder.

That no divorce law would force people to live in loveless or abusive relationships and is thus anti-love and unjust.

Do you agree?

Story's an allegory: Jesus wasn't talking about the marriage between men and women, but the marriage between God and man. What he said to his disciples afterwards still stands, however.

Are you saying that God can only kill and cannot cure?

That would suggest that God, who is said to be all powerful, which would include an all powerful power of persuasion, must take the immoral low ground of killing because he cannot take the moral high ground and cure.

Perhaps you are right but even doing nothing is more moral than killing instead of curing.

What happened is that the children of Cain had contaminated the earth with their violence, each generation becoming more unjust than the last. In the Uncreation, the bad blood was washed away, and the Noahide Laws were set up to hold back future tides of violence. Of course, God knows that we've often strayed from those laws, but he's storing up a second baptism for us - not one of water, but one of fire.

No one is this bad of a bible reader so I guess you were still on a roll from youre first really stupid statement.

You could not answer that intelligently so I guess you just styed in your stupid zone for the rest.

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I certainly wouldn't want to be a Gnostic Christian if it makes one this much of an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

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I certainly wouldn't want to be a Gnostic Christian if it makes one this much of an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

So you do not like certainty of thought and a guy that follows the little bit of wisdom in the bible.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Oh well.

Do you correct the foolish thinking of your children and would they hot think of you as an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

Likely yes, child.

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Gratuitously insulting children in the process of correcting them is typically understood to be a form of emotional abuse, so no, if I ever have children, I don't in fact intend to treat them the way you treat other posters.

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I certainly wouldn't want to be a Gnostic Christian if it makes one this much of an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

So you do not like certainty of thought and a guy that follows the little bit of wisdom in the bible.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Oh well.

Do you correct the foolish thinking of your children and would they hot think of you as an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

Likely yes, child.

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DL

Gratuitously insulting children in the process of correcting them is typically understood to be a form of emotional abuse, so no, if I ever have children, I don't in fact intend to treat them the way you treat other posters.

Good for you, but you have to remember that most theists I correct have help foolish notions for a long time.

If a soft touch was effective, I would use it.

I have had soft friends with loving hearts go with me when they have agreed with my moral views but theist sh**t on them just as much as on me.

When delusional idol worshipers start to heal their dysfunctional thinking, then I will happily just give the facts and they will have the mental capability of shedding their love of their genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

If you want to give me lessons, go ahead.

How would you change the mind of a delusional guy who believes that some guy in the sky is God and even though he murders children and babies, that God is still a nice guy?

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...I'd gently try to convince people of my beliefs if they'd expressed openness to hearing about it, but be fine with them continuing to hold their existing beliefs if they hadn't or if it didn't work, like a normal f**king person in a tolerant society?