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« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2017, 02:01:42 PM »

So Marion Maréchal-Le Pen is out. She will be back in 10 years, I'm pretty sure.
So without Panzergirl and Panzerbabby, who leads the FN?

It really has to depend on which faction wins the upcoming fest.
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« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2017, 02:45:08 PM »

Les Republicains will run on a new and more moderate platform for the legislative election instead of using Fillon's platform. While I loved Fillon's platform it's probably the smart thing to do. Fillon's platform was borderline unelectable, I think he would have had a lot of trouble getting elected even without Penelopegate. Slashing taxes by €50 billion (€40 billion for businesses, €10 billion for households) while also balancing the budget and rewriting the entire labour code isn't a very electable platform I'm afraid.
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« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2017, 02:55:13 PM »

Les Republicains will run on a new and more moderate platform for the legislative election instead of using Fillon's platform. While I loved Fillon's platform it's probably the smart thing to do. Fillon's platform was borderline unelectable, I think he would have had a lot of trouble getting elected even without Penelopegate. Slashing taxes by €50 billion (€40 billion for businesses, €10 billion for households) while also balancing the budget and rewriting the entire labour code isn't a very electable platform I'm afraid.
Especially in France.
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« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2017, 04:14:19 PM »

   Does the Republicains platform still call for the various national referenda that Fillon wanted?
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« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2017, 08:38:08 PM »

   Does the Republicains platform still call for the various national referenda that Fillon wanted?

I mean it doesn't really matter, since only the President can call referenda.
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« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2017, 12:41:33 AM »

  Oh right, but in terms of the policies they would be about like immigration and government reform does the new platform include them?
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« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2017, 01:34:16 AM »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.
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« Reply #82 on: May 10, 2017, 01:35:09 AM »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.
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« Reply #83 on: May 10, 2017, 01:37:29 AM »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.

If you allow me to channel my inner BRTD.
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« Reply #84 on: May 10, 2017, 01:45:09 AM »
« Edited: May 10, 2017, 01:52:28 AM by Barnes »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.

Hehe. Not that I'm an enthusiastic LREM convert, but even as far as political opportunism goes, that was pretty craven. Macron has proved unusually adept at totally shedding association with the Hollande presidency despite representing a continuation of at least its ambitions, if not its policies. I don't doubt he'll be able to continue pulling this off until at least June.
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« Reply #85 on: May 10, 2017, 01:49:56 AM »

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« Reply #86 on: May 10, 2017, 01:52:19 AM »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.

Macron should appoint him for museum director of the Louvre or something instead ...
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« Reply #87 on: May 10, 2017, 02:04:16 AM »


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« Reply #88 on: May 10, 2017, 04:46:39 AM »

I guess you could say he got the Chris Christie treatment.
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« Reply #89 on: May 10, 2017, 05:06:43 AM »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.

Could he run in another constituency? Or just say " it" and run as an independent in his own constituency? (is he well liked there in the first place?)
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« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2017, 05:56:35 AM »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.

Could he run in another constituency? Or just say " it" and run as an independent in his own constituency? (is he well liked there in the first place?)

I think he'll run in his constituency.
The fact that he didn't even think to confirm his switch with the higher ups of EM (i.e EM himself) before announcing it, is just staggeringly bad political strategy.
PS have started an exclusion procedure against him.

Hamon has started his own movement without leaving the PS. I guess they will hold a congress andh e hopes to take a control of the party from there.
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« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2017, 08:37:28 AM »

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.

Could he run in another constituency? Or just say " it" and run as an independent in his own constituency? (is he well liked there in the first place?)

I think he'll run in his constituency.
The fact that he didn't even think to confirm his switch with the higher ups of EM (i.e EM himself) before announcing it, is just staggeringly bad political strategy.
PS have started an exclusion procedure against him.

Will this incident stop other possible defectors from PS? Or, maybe, Valls is an exception and most of them will be welcomed to LREM with open arms?
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« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2017, 09:59:35 AM »

Valls is clearly an exception. He and Macron have bad relationship, he is unpopular and an important figure of the last 5 years, not a good choice when you propose the renewal. (And it was quite arrogant from Valls to declare himself candidate for the presidential majority without any agreement with Macron).
But today he suffers a total public humiliation, even if I don't like him it's a little bit hard.

After the South-West, after Hénin-Beaumont, after Essonne, the electoral Tour de France of Jean-Luc Mélenchon continues, now candidate in Marseille.
By the way Mélenchon's movement and the Communist Party fail to find an agreement for the elections.
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« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2017, 10:56:50 AM »

   In a nutshell why do so many posters on this board not like Valls?
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« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2017, 11:53:23 AM »

   In a nutshell why do so many posters on this board not like Valls?

Right-wingers hate him because he is a member of the Socialist party. Left-wingers hate him because he governed as a centrist third way PM (tax cuts for businesses, some labour reforms and some deregulation).
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« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2017, 11:58:49 AM »

   In a nutshell why do so many posters on this board not like Valls?
He was largely ineffectual as PM, violated his oath to endorse the winner of the Socialist Party's primary and is a gutless third way-er
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« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2017, 12:21:14 PM »

I really have few ideological complaints about Valls (except for his idiotic support for banning the "burkini", which isn't really out of line with his own policies) but there was really no need to pull such an act of political betrayal against the PS except for his own advantage.

You might ask, how is that any different than any other politician, especially in France? Well it's not, really, except that Valls mishandled the whole thing so badly, Macron was at pains to ignore his endorsement and then ensured he wouldn't just parachute in as a LREM candidate.
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« Reply #97 on: May 10, 2017, 12:33:38 PM »

Benchmarks from the rest of the Fifth Republic to keep in mind for the inevitable hideous defeat of the Left...

1958: 50 seats (SFIO 40, PCF 10)
1968: 91 seats (FGDS 57, PCF 34)
1993: 91 seats (PS 53, PCF 24, Others 14)
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« Reply #98 on: May 10, 2017, 12:39:34 PM »

Benchmarks from the rest of the Fifth Republic to keep in mind for the inevitable hideous defeat of the Left...

1958: 50 seats (SFIO 40, PCF 10)
1968: 91 seats (FGDS 57, PCF 34)
1993: 91 seats (PS 53, PCF 24, Others 14)

And with FG/FI and the PCF out for each other's blood, those results will look positively peachy in comparison!
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« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2017, 12:50:52 PM »

Is PCF still something relevant? With 1-2 % in opinion polls, it seems they diminished to the level of Trotskyists.
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