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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #200 on: May 16, 2017, 02:55:04 PM »

Macron successfully destabilized the left, and now appears to successfully destabilize the right: it's now 173 LR politicians who call to work with Macron.

Good!
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« Reply #201 on: May 17, 2017, 08:24:27 AM »

He's named his ministers.
Bayrou at Justice
Le Drian at foreign affairs
Gerard Collomb at interior
Hulot at "ecological transition"
Bruno ing Le Maire at economy.
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« Reply #202 on: May 17, 2017, 08:25:44 AM »

He's named his ministers.
Bayrou at Justice
Le Drian at foreign affairs
Gerard Collomb at interior
Hulot at "ecological transition"
Bruno ing Le Maire at economy.

More people from the right beside Le Maire? I don't recognize the others
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« Reply #203 on: May 17, 2017, 08:31:29 AM »

Collomb and Le Drian are from PS, Hulot is from Greens, Bayrou and Le Marie are from their bizarre little personality cult parties. I don't know what factions Collomb and Le Drian are from.
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« Reply #204 on: May 17, 2017, 08:31:47 AM »


More people from the right beside Le Maire? I don't recognize the others

collomb is from PS, bayrou is clear, hulot is from a greenish party, drian is from PS.
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« Reply #205 on: May 17, 2017, 08:34:04 AM »

He's named his ministers.
Bayrou at Justice
Le Drian at foreign affairs
Gerard Collomb at interior
Hulot at "ecological transition"
Bruno ing Le Maire at economy.

More people from the right beside Le Maire? I don't recognize the others

Full list here :

https://www.rtbf.be/info/monde/detail_france-la-composition-du-nouveau-gouvernement-devoilee-ce-mercredi?id=9608223

Gérald Darmanin is LR. I think thats all.
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« Reply #206 on: May 17, 2017, 08:51:06 AM »

It seems LREM nominated more candidates recently to its list. Any LR defectors in there ?
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« Reply #207 on: May 17, 2017, 10:32:15 AM »

It seems LREM nominated more candidates recently to its list. Any LR defectors in there ?

Most of the new candidates were MoDem, to appease Bayrou.
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« Reply #208 on: May 17, 2017, 10:40:04 AM »

Macron really blowing away the old order with this cabinet. Le Renouveau my backside.
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« Reply #209 on: May 17, 2017, 11:14:14 AM »
« Edited: May 17, 2017, 11:16:43 AM by Tirnam »

22 ministers and secretaries, 11 men, 11 women, 13 from political parties, 9 from "civil society"

-5 from LREM
-2 from MoDem
-2 from PS
-2 from PRG
-2 from LR (or now ex-LR)

Foreign affairs ministry is now Europe and foreign affairs ministry.
Defense ministry is now Armed forces ministry.

Only 4 ministers have been minister in the past (Bayrou, Le Maire, Le Drian, Girardin)
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« Reply #210 on: May 17, 2017, 11:43:15 AM »

LREM will not present a candidate in 55 constituencies.
So no LREM candidate face to Riester (LR), Le Maire (LR), Apparu (LR), Le Foll (PS), Touraine (PS), El Khomri (PS), ...
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« Reply #211 on: May 17, 2017, 11:48:06 AM »

LREM will not present a candidate in 55 constituencies.
So no LREM candidate face to Riester (LR), Le Maire (LR), Apparu (LR), Le Foll (PS), Touraine (PS), El Khomri (PS), ...

Why are they doing this?  Did they make tactical deals with the existing LR or PS incumbent ?
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« Reply #212 on: May 17, 2017, 11:54:29 AM »

All the LRs who have joined the gvt have been fired.
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« Reply #213 on: May 17, 2017, 12:06:08 PM »

LREM will not present a candidate in 55 constituencies.
So no LREM candidate face to Riester (LR), Le Maire (LR), Apparu (LR), Le Foll (PS), Touraine (PS), El Khomri (PS), ...

Why are they doing this?  Did they make tactical deals with the existing LR or PS incumbent ?

Well Le Maire is now in the government, that sound fair to not present a candidate against him (especially since the ministers who will be defeated will have to resign).

For the others Macron hopes that they will join the majority after the election.
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« Reply #214 on: May 17, 2017, 12:54:31 PM »

All the LRs who have joined the gvt have been fired.
From LR?
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« Reply #215 on: May 17, 2017, 12:55:48 PM »


I think so. Baroin threatened to throw everyone who joined Macron out of the party.
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« Reply #216 on: May 17, 2017, 12:57:12 PM »

LREM will not present a candidate in 55 constituencies.
So no LREM candidate face to Riester (LR), Le Maire (LR), Apparu (LR), Le Foll (PS), Touraine (PS), El Khomri (PS), ...

Why are they doing this?  Did they make tactical deals with the existing LR or PS incumbent ?

Maybe they are also not able to find capable candidates to field all constituencies. Also some of them might join Macron after the election
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« Reply #217 on: May 17, 2017, 01:51:44 PM »

Le Maire is a big deal. Hopefully this is only the beginning and LR will end up splitting.
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« Reply #218 on: May 17, 2017, 02:41:39 PM »

Le Mairethinks he is a big deal. Hopefully this is only the beginning and LR will end up splitting.

FTFY

Honestly I don't get why people rate this guy. Everything that is wrong with politics. And failed miserably in both the UMP leadership vs a washed out Sarko and in the primaries when at the start people were genuinely touting him as the third man ahead of Fillon.
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« Reply #219 on: May 17, 2017, 07:33:24 PM »

Isn't Le Maire one of those, "I like to change things very slowly guys Smiley "
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« Reply #220 on: May 17, 2017, 10:04:16 PM »

Harris Poll (post Edouard Philippe appointment of PM)

LREM    32 (+3)
LR-UDI  19 (-1)
FN         19 (-1)
FI/PG     15 (+1)
PS-PRG    6 (-1)
EELV       3 (-)
DLF         3 (-)
PCF         2

PS-PRG-EELV together form 9% which seems to low to get to second round in a meaningful number of seats.
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« Reply #221 on: May 17, 2017, 10:37:38 PM »

Harris Poll (post Edouard Philippe appointment of PM)

LREM    32 (+3)
LR-UDI  19 (-1)
FN         19 (-1)
FI/PG     15 (+1)
PS-PRG    6 (-1)
EELV       3 (-)
DLF         3 (-)
PCF         2

PS-PRG-EELV together form 9% which seems to low to get to second round in a meaningful number of seats.
Can all of this alliances out of party systems backfire hard in legislatives? LR, FN, FI and PS voters uniting against LREM candidates?
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« Reply #222 on: May 18, 2017, 12:12:54 AM »

Le Maire at the economy ministry is great. He apparently had a pretty ambitious economic reform agenda so I'm more optimistic now. Macron has said he won't compromise on his agenda, but I was afraid that he was going to shift to the left.
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« Reply #223 on: May 18, 2017, 12:45:50 AM »

Harris Poll (post Edouard Philippe appointment of PM)

LREM    32 (+3)
LR-UDI  19 (-1)
FN         19 (-1)
FI/PG     15 (+1)
PS-PRG    6 (-1)
EELV       3 (-)
DLF         3 (-)
PCF         2

PS-PRG-EELV together form 9% which seems to low to get to second round in a meaningful number of seats.
Can all of this alliances out of party systems backfire hard in legislatives? LR, FN, FI and PS voters uniting against LREM candidates?

No, absolutely no.
PS, LR, FI voters are not going to vote FN against LREM.
LR voters are not going to vote FI against LREM
PS voters are not going to vote LR against LREM
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In the same poll 60% want a majority for Macron, but only 23% an absolute majority, 20% a relative majority with a center-left alliance, 17% a relative majority with a center-right alliance.
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« Reply #224 on: May 18, 2017, 01:08:42 AM »

Harris Poll (post Edouard Philippe appointment of PM)

LREM    32 (+3)
LR-UDI  19 (-1)
FN         19 (-1)
FI/PG     15 (+1)
PS-PRG    6 (-1)
EELV       3 (-)
DLF         3 (-)
PCF         2

 
 
So in 10 days EM's lead went from 4 points up to 13 points compared to LR. Seems like Macron's strategy is working well so far. If it would stay that way how many seats would EM roughly get?
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