French Legislative Election 2017

[adma]

Offhandedly, what intrigues me is that for all of FN's gains, they not only couldn't win anything in Panzergirl's strongest department, Aisne, but the strongest presidential FN constituency in Aisne actually went for the Socialists!

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Offhandedly, what intrigues me is that for all of FN's gains, they not only couldn't win anything in Panzergirl's strongest department, Aisne, but the strongest presidential FN constituency in Aisne actually went for the Socialists!

That constituency has somehow been held consistently by SFIO/PS since 1967 despite increasingly appalling Presidential results there. Think it may be their longest continually held seat now. It's a bunch of spectacularly bleak manufacturing towns, the sort of places you don't ever have to go through unless you actually live in them. But what it does show is the extent to which a lot of FN gains were basically gifted them by the Left going mad and running a thousand candidates per seat; Left candidates can beat the Fash in the properly grim parts of postindustrial Northern France, Macarons can't...

[parochial boy]

Offhandedly, what intrigues me is that for all of FN's gains, they not only couldn't win anything in Panzergirl's strongest department, Aisne, but the strongest presidential FN constituency in Aisne actually went for the Socialists!

That constituency has somehow been held consistently by SFIO/PS since 1967 despite increasingly appalling Presidential results there. Think it may be their longest continually held seat now. It's a bunch of spectacularly bleak manufacturing towns, the sort of places you don't ever have to go through unless you actually live in them. But what it does show is the extent to which a lot of FN gains were basically gifted them by the Left going mad and running a thousand candidates per seat; Left candidates can beat the Fash in the properly grim parts of postindustrial Northern France, Macarons can't...

Amazing, it's almost like working class people in Western Europe are still inclined to vote for left-wingers or something

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Amazing, it's almost like working class people in Western Europe are still inclined to vote for left-wingers or something

Next thing you know you'll be telling me that the Tories paying for extremely expensive wrap-around newspaper adverts in Barnsley was the most hilarious waste of money in a British election ever.

[Kamala]

Parliamentary groups have been finalised; The UDI-Constructifs group has 38 members. The PC has formed the Democratic and Republican Left group with Martinician, Réunionese, and Guianese deputies.

Is there a reason why MoDem has its own group and not part of REM's group? Also, does anyone know if the EELV deputy joined the Socialist group or is a non-inscrite?

[MaxQue]

Parliamentary groups have been finalised; The UDI-Constructifs group has 38 members. The PC has formed the Democratic and Republican Left group with Martinician, Réunionese, and Guianese deputies.

Is there a reason why MoDem has its own group and not part of REM's group? Also, does anyone know if the EELV deputy joined the Socialist group or is a non-inscrite?

Well, MoDem is its own party, why would they go in the same group? Anyways, I don't think there was ever unique majority group (2002-2012 had UMP and UDF, 1997-2002 had PS, PCF and a PRG-MRC-Green one).

[Former President tack50]

Parliamentary groups have been finalised; The UDI-Constructifs group has 38 members. The PC has formed the Democratic and Republican Left group with Martinician, Réunionese, and Guianese deputies.

Is there a reason why MoDem has its own group and not part of REM's group? Also, does anyone know if the EELV deputy joined the Socialist group or is a non-inscrite?

Why didn't the far left (Melenchon's FI and PCF) unite?

[Barnes]

Parliamentary groups have been finalised; The UDI-Constructifs group has 38 members. The PC has formed the Democratic and Republican Left group with Martinician, Réunionese, and Guianese deputies.

Is there a reason why MoDem has its own group and not part of REM's group? Also, does anyone know if the EELV deputy joined the Socialist group or is a non-inscrite?

Why didn't the far left (Melenchon's FI and PCF) unite?

The PCF despises Melenchon's cult of personality and the two burned most of their bridges during the legislative campaign. Additionally the Communists have always felt humiliated about dropping below the threshold for a group; this formed the impetus for the GDR where they could have a crypto-PCF group with a few regionalists/minor parties.

[adma]

Offhandedly, what intrigues me is that for all of FN's gains, they not only couldn't win anything in Panzergirl's strongest department, Aisne, but the strongest presidential FN constituency in Aisne actually went for the Socialists!

That constituency has somehow been held consistently by SFIO/PS since 1967 despite increasingly appalling Presidential results there. Think it may be their longest continually held seat now. It's a bunch of spectacularly bleak manufacturing towns, the sort of places you don't ever have to go through unless you actually live in them. But what it does show is the extent to which a lot of FN gains were basically gifted them by the Left going mad and running a thousand candidates per seat; Left candidates can beat the Fash in the properly grim parts of postindustrial Northern France, Macarons can't...

With that post, now I know what you mean about missing the good old days of participants in this board actually knowing and having a sensual "feel" for French political geography...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Parliamentary groups have been finalised; The UDI-Constructifs group has 38 members. The PC has formed the Democratic and Republican Left group with Martinician, Réunionese, and Guianese deputies.

Is there a reason why MoDem has its own group and not part of REM's group? Also, does anyone know if the EELV deputy joined the Socialist group or is a non-inscrite?

Well, MoDem is its own party, why would they go in the same group? Anyways, I don't think there was ever unique majority group (2002-2012 had UMP and UDF, 1997-2002 had PS, PCF and a PRG-MRC-Green one).

UMP had the absolute majority from 2002 to 2012. UDR had a majority after 1968, and PS after 1981.

[Tirnam]

Maybe a 8th parliamentary group, some DVG want to create a progressive group on the left, in support of the presidential majority. For now they don't have the required 15 deputies.

The key for them is PS deputies. The national instance of PS has decided to be in the opposition, so no vote in favor of the government (PS deputies have a choice between no-confidence vote or abstain).
But some PS deputies could vote in favor of the government, and as you could expect the leftist part of the party will want them expelled of PS, if that's the case maybe they could join the DVG in their attempt to form a group.
It's said that a third of PS deputies could vote for in favor of the government (another third in abstention, a final third in a no-confidance vote).

[Zinneke]

Parliamentary groups have been finalised; The UDI-Constructifs group has 38 members. The PC has formed the Democratic and Republican Left group with Martinician, Réunionese, and Guianese deputies.

Is there a reason why MoDem has its own group and not part of REM's group? Also, does anyone know if the EELV deputy joined the Socialist group or is a non-inscrite?

Why didn't the far left (Melenchon's FI and PCF) unite?

Discounting the personal reasons mentioned above, it has to do with the PCF endorsing Macron in the second round. A lot of the recent sectarianism in the far left is arguably defined by how they respond to the eventual PS or in this case LREM second round candidate. The NPA for example did not join the Front de Gauche in 2012 because Mélenchon was still ready to back Hollande vs Sarkozy. Similarly here, Mélenchon's abstentionist policy was poorly received by the PCF, who still have an antifascist reflex.

[Famous Mortimer]

Maybe a 8th parliamentary group, some DVG want to create a progressive group on the left, in support of the presidential majority. For now they don't have the required 15 deputies.

Do we know who the MPs are? I assume Valls and who else?

[TheSaint250]

Is the new LRCUDI group a de facto part of the majority?

[Tirnam]

Maybe a 8th parliamentary group, some DVG want to create a progressive group on the left, in support of the presidential majority. For now they don't have the required 15 deputies.

Do we know who the MPs are? I assume Valls and who else?

Apparently Falorni (DVG) has said that they have around 20 deputies now: Valls, the PRG, others DVG and apparently some right-wing Radicaux.

[Zuza]

Apparently Falorni (DVG) has said that they have around 20 deputies now: Valls, the PRG, others DVG and apparently some right-wing Radicaux.

So, no PS defectors aside from Valls and maybe some others who already left PS before the elections? This is somewhat surprising given that a large part of LR joined LRCUDI.

[Velasco]

Progressively starting up, Valls et alii. Wow.

[Velasco]

The fundamental problem is, imho, the link to the Nation. The PCF is historically internationalist and they tend to prefer referencing class struggle rather than French identity. Mélenchon has chosen the opposite way; his rallies were full of tricolor flags and he sung the Marseillaise with the crowd, something a PCF candidate would never do. Both are building their discourse around historical references; the Labor movement for the PCF, and the French Revolution for la France Insoumise.

Guess which strategy works best?

From what I 've read the sources of inspiration for Mélenchon and la France Insoumise were certain Latin American political movements (such as Rafael Correa's "civic revolution" in Ecuador), Bernie Sanders and Podemos in Spain. There are obvious differences between countries and FI is neither Podemos nor Correa's party, of course. Anyway that appeal to the French Revolution and its symbols concurs with the appeal of Latin American leftwing populism to the "people" and the "motherland". There is some influence of leftwing populist theorists Ernesto Laclau and Chantal Mouffe. The latter wrote a book with Ïñigo Errejón from Podemos which title translated into French is Construire un peuple.

https://www.editionsducerf.fr/librairie/livre/17946/construire-un-peuple

And there was that March for the VI Republic with the presence of Chantal Mouffe

http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2017/03/18/entre-bastille-et-republique-melenchon-reussit-son-pari_5096932_823448.html

While in 2012 Mélenchon made calls to assemble "the people of the left", in 2017 appealed to "the people" without additives and the red flags were much less visible. It's obvious that people in the PCF couldn't be happy with that, but FI got seven million of votes.

Another question is how arrogant Mélenchon is and how stupid and suicidal has been for the Left running separate lists in the legislative elections (it looked that it saved face somewhat by winning 17 and 10 seats, but it's indisputably a poor result). Even Pablo Iglesias (who is a bit of an arrogant prick in my opinion) pales in comparison in what regards personality cult and sectarianism.

[Famous Mortimer]

Who is the one remaining Chevenementist MP caucusing with?

[Andrea]

The groups formed

- La République En Marche (309 membres et 4 apparentés) ;
- Les Républicains (95 membres et 5 apparentés );
- Le Mouvement démocrate et apparentés  (43 membres et 4 apparentés);
- Les Constructifs : républicains, UDI, indépendants (34 membres et 1 apparenté);
- Nouvelle Gauche (28 membres et 3 apparentés) ;
- La France insoumise (17 membres) ;
- La Gauche démocrate et républicaine (16 membres).


Election for President of Assemblée Nationale

François de Rugy 353 votes
Jean-Charles Taugourdeau  94 votes
Laure de La Raudière 34 votes
Laurence Dumont  32 votes
Caroline Fiat  30 votes

[MaxQue]

The PCF used their usual group name, GDR. Seems the PS decided to call their group "New Left".

[Andrea]

The outre-mer MPs who joined PCF in the Gauche démocrate et républicaine group are

Bruno-Nestor AZEROT (Martinique, 2e)
 Huguette BELLO (Réunion, 2e)
Moetai BROTHERSON (Polynésie française, 3e)
 Jean-Philippe NILOR (Martinique, 4e)
Gabriel SERVILLE (Guyane, 1ère)


Jean Hugues Ratenon  (Réunion, 5e) joined  France insoumise group.

The New Left (PS and friends) is composed by:

AVIRAGNET Joel
BAREIGTS Ericka
BATHO Delphine
BATTISTEL Marie Noelle
BIEMOURET Gisèle
BOUILLON Christophe
BRICOUT Jean Louis
CARVOUNAS Luc
DAVID Alain
DUMONT Laurence
DUSSOPT Olivier
FAURE Olivier
GAROT Guillaume
HABIB David
HUTIN Christian
JUANICO Régis
KARAMANLI Marietta
LAMBERT Jérôme
LE FOLL Stéphane
LETCHIMY Serge
MANIN Josette
PAU LANGEVIN George
PIRES BEAUNE Christine
POTIER Dominique
PUEYO Joaquim
PUPPONI François
RABAULT Valérie
SAULIGNAC Hervé
UNTERMAIER Cécile
VAINQUEUR CHRISTOPHE Hélène
VALLAUD Boris

[Antonio the Sixth]

NEW LEFT, lmao...

[Andrea]

Full official composition of parliamentary groups here

http://www2.assemblee-nationale.fr/15/les-groupes-politiques/

Also, does anyone know if the EELV deputy joined the Socialist group or is a non-inscrite?

Éric Alauzet joined the Republique en Marche group.

Who is the one remaining Chevenementist MP caucusing with?

Hutin is in the New Left group.

[RodPresident]

Why did PRG not joined Socialist Group? And Corses? Which group would they fit best?