French Legislative Election 2017

[DavidB.]

This is going to be flawless and beautiful.

[DavidB.]

I happen to live in one of only two metropolitan constituencies where the runoff will be between PS and FI. Sadly, I also happen to vote in one of the many where it will be LREM-LR, so at least I have my day free on Sunday !

Dude, I'm going to take a couple hours and pay $20-30 in car ride to get to my polling station and cast a spoiled vote in my LREM-LR matchup. Surely you can walk to yours and spend a couple minutes do the same. Don't be one of those lazy f**ks who are the reason our democracy is a joke.

Respect.

The French govt is not the only organization with power to govern the labour market. The real question is how willing he will be to stomp on worker's democratic rights and how strong the worker's resistance will be.

Nothing "democratic" about using violence to prevent a democratically elected president with a democratic parliamentary majority from implementing his policies. If these people want their policies to be implemented perhaps they should just try and win an election for a change.

[DavidB.]

Yeah, good point.

[DavidB.]

The unprecedented majority will have a mandate simply because of how large it appears set to be. 280 seats with turnout at 56% is less impressive and less of a mandate than 425+ seats with turnout at 48%.

Which is why non-LREM voters could better stay home at this point -- if turnout suddenly drops to 38% instead of the expected 48% the picture will be different...

[DavidB.]

Nor is the left dead in the Netherlands - PvdA being punished for a grand coalition with its vote collapsing (most of which to non-coalition centre-left parties) is not particularly concerning.

Left-wing parties GL, SP, PvdA and PvdD have 42 out of 150 seats, fewer than ever and almost what the PvdA got on their own in 2012; back then, these four parties had 59 seats and the PvdA 38. Even if you include economically center-right D66, they went from 71 in 2012 to 61 in 2017.

I wouldn't say the left is dead in the Netherlands because I'm not some "2017 forever" person and the PvdA will get back up. However, with a party that will never form a center-left government in the driver's seat and a center-right government being all the left can hope for, the left is weaker than ever right now.

[DavidB.]

Conservative Muslims aren't left-wing and D66 never attacked the PvdA from the left, they even attacked the VVD from the right in some cases. The point is that the combined left lost. If the PvdA would have lost all their support to SP and GL you would have a point. But they haven't and you don't. Anyway, let's talk about France here; if you want to talk some more about this interesting subject, let's do it in the Dutch thread.

[DavidB.]

Ipsos final turnout estimate: 43%. European election level.

Good. Will draw attention to how farcical this system is.

[DavidB.]

BFM(FBM?)TV:
LREM 395-425
LR UDI DVD 97-117
PS PRG DVG 29-34
FI 12-17
FN 4-6
Autre 8-10
Ext Gauche 0

[DavidB.]

Does anybody have a good website with results by municipality on a clickable map? I had one last time around but lost it...

[DavidB.]

Le Pen elected too.

[DavidB.]

Kantar-Sofres:
- La République en marche : 315 sièges
- Les Républicains/UDI/Divers droite : 133 sièges
- MoDem : 45 sièges
- Parti socialiste : 32 sièges
- La France insoumise : 17 sièges
- Parti radical de gauche/Divers gauche : 13 sièges
- Parti communiste : 9 sièges
- Front national : 6 sièges
- Autres (Debout la France, régionalistes, extrême droite) : 6 sièges
- Écologistes : 1 siège

[DavidB.]

Valls reelected

NICE

[DavidB.]

Apparently there are rumors (Le Monde) that Valls could be the next President of the Assembly... Ô_o

That would be flawless and beautiful.

[DavidB.]

Bompard elected 50.4-49.6

[DavidB.]

Marine won 58.6-41.4

[DavidB.]

Lol

LOIRET
4ÈME CIRCONSCRIPTION

M. Jean-Pierre DOOR (Élu)
LR
50,01%

Mme Mélusine HARLÉ
Rép. en marche
49,99%

[DavidB.]

And two other ones in Loiret:

3rd:
M. Claude DE GANAY (Élu)
LR
50,10%

Mme Jihan CHELLY
Rép. en marche
49,90%

and

5th:
Mme Marianne DUBOIS (Élue)
LR
50,16%

M. David SIMONNET
Rép. en marche
49,84%

LREM sure didn't get lucky there!

[DavidB.]

How ghetto is Valls' district?

[DavidB.]

How ghetto is Valls' district?

Do you realize how ironic and bad it is for a Jew to ask this ?

I am well aware of the origins of the word ghetto, but I don't see anything wrong with asking it.

[DavidB.]

For the PC police I will happily rephrase it: to what extent would one say that large swathes of Valls' constituency can be considered socio-economically underprivileged sensitive urban zones?

[DavidB.]

For the PC police I will happily rephrase it: to what extent would one say that large swathes of Valls' constituency can be considered socio-economically underprivileged sensitive urban zones?

There are rather poor zones in Évry and especially Corbeil. But Corbeil had been transformed into Dassault land, even if there was still a PCF tradition there. Lisses, Bondoufle and Villabé are much more suburbia.

Thank you.

[DavidB.]

No offense taken. I sort of expected someone to make that remark already.

What's the 9th seat for FN?

Bompard in the Vaucluse + 4 in PdC, 1 in Nord, 1 in Gard, 1 in Hérault, 1 in Pyrénées-Orientales

[DavidB.]

Valls now officially won 50.3-49.7. Turnout only 36.6% in his district.

[DavidB.]

Turnout only 29.5% in Seine-Saint-Denis 2. Blancs and nuls close to 10% almost everywhere. Means that the candidate elected in this district was backed by what, 13% of the electorate? And this is the runoff...

[DavidB.]

Valls now officially won 50.3-49.7. Turnout only 36.6% in his district.

Yes !!

We have reports than he actually lost but than the mayorship of Corbeil-Essonne tampered with results.

I believe it when I see it.