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Kringla Heimsins
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« on: May 08, 2017, 02:04:58 PM »





- Who is in charge now and leads the PS for the legislative election? Hamon?

Cambadélis (lol) or probably Le Foll.

It's actually Cazeneuve now. And the PS has published a new common program for all the candidates, which scraps most of Hamon's program. No more universal income or fight against burn-out. In return, Hamon has called for an alliance with France Insoumise, and has not ruled out supporting FI/PCF candidates over PS ones.

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 03:22:43 PM »





- Who is in charge now and leads the PS for the legislative election? Hamon?

Cambadélis (lol) or probably Le Foll.

It's actually Cazeneuve now. And the PS has published a new common program for all the candidates, which scraps most of Hamon's program. No more universal income or fight against burn-out. In return, Hamon has called for an alliance with France Insoumise, and has not ruled out supporting FI/PCF candidates over PS ones.



Is Hamon standing as a candidate?

Yes: In the 11th constituency of Yvelines, for which he is already the deputy: http://www.parti-socialiste.fr/liste-candidats-aux-legislatives-investis-ps/
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2017, 09:40:11 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2017, 09:44:24 PM by Kringla Heimsins »

Le Pen won 45 constituencies yesterday,

Is there a map available?

Here: http://www.laprovence.com/article/presidentielle-2017/4439716/presidentielle-les-resultats-du-second-tour-par-circonscription.html

Edit: here is a better one, but only for constituencies won by Le Pen.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2017, 01:34:57 PM »

So Marion Maréchal-Le Pen is out. She will be back in 10 years, I'm pretty sure.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2017, 01:51:31 PM »

So Marion Maréchal-Le Pen is out. She will be back in 10 years, I'm pretty sure.
So without Panzergirl and Panzerbabby, who leads the FN?

Marine will probably stay where she is. If the radical-right wing tries to oust her, good question... Maybe Bruno Gollnisch, who contested the 2011 leadership election?
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2017, 03:40:49 PM »

Who is the LREM candidate in Vall's district? Is it a total nobody?

We don't know yet.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2017, 07:26:39 AM »

For two, I am amused at the presumptious implication that there couldn't possibly have been an equal number of qualified women as men. Perhaps the quota even worked in favor of the men!

This.

Also, François Bayrou is furious, and has called a meeting with the heads of his party. The honeymoon is already over.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2017, 09:57:27 PM »

Well, that's kind of a relief. During the last weeks, all I saw were projections giving EM up to 425 seats. At least Macron won't be able to revise the Constitution easily.

Btw, Manuel Valls is a gigantic d!ck, and there was a definitive weird pattern in his election today - trailing by ~100, but leading by 300 after a recount in a specific precinct. I hope his election will be canceled for fraud, that would be quite the downfall for a former Premier Minister and once presidential hopeful.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2017, 04:35:29 PM »

Macron is a classical liberal. Édouard Philippe too (albeit a little more conservative). I don't see how their place on a left-right scale is up to debate; they are centrists, plain and simple.

Also,

Marine Le Pen elected and the FN's two incumbent MPs, Gilbert Collard and Jacques Bompard, re-elected.

Anything interesting about the other 5 FN members who got elected? Or are they just randos?


Jacques Bompard is not FN, he is from the "Ligue du Sud", a regionalist, catholic, far-right party centered around himself. The FN hate him, as they are really centralists.

About the other new FN MPs, I note Louis Aliot (Pyrénées-Orientales), Marine Le Pen's partner, and Sébastien Chenu (Nord), who is openly gay and a former member of LR.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2017, 09:07:26 PM »

I don't view Macron as a traitor to 'my cause' as he's never been an advocate of 'my cause'.

He actually voted for Chevènement in 2002, which confuses me.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2017, 10:19:46 AM »

I don't view Macron as a traitor to 'my cause' as he's never been an advocate of 'my cause'.

He actually voted for Chevènement in 2002, which confuses me.

...seriously? That's hilarious.

https://www.marianne.net/politique/macron-ce-jeune-chevenementiste

Go figure.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2017, 07:58:31 PM »

The fundamental problem is, imho, the link to the Nation. The PCF is historically internationalist and they tend to prefer referencing class struggle rather than French identity. Mélenchon has chosen the opposite way; his rallies were full of tricolor flags and he sung the Marseillaise with the crowd, something a PCF candidate would never do. Both are building their discourse around historical references; the Labor movement for the PCF, and the French Revolution for la France Insoumise.

Guess which strategy works best?
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2017, 09:10:32 PM »

Not sure what you mean... are you referring to Melenchon's FI having more seats in the legislatives?
Not that I care about which of these strategies to take, since the main reason I'd consider FI or PCF is to strategically defeat PS centrists, LREM or the right.

I'm referring to Mélenchon getting a record-high share of the vote for a far-left candidate in a presidential election since 1969, and FI getting five times more votes in the legislative elections.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2017, 03:54:49 PM »

Why did PRG not joined Socialist Group? And Corses? Which group would they fit best?

The Corses fit nowhere. As for the PRG, I think it is because they intend to vote the motion of confidence to the Philippe government. Also most of them were elected with de facto support from Macron, as they had no LREM opponent.
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