Globalization or Nationalism?

[JA]

Increasing globalization includes strengthening of international and transnational organizations (EU, UN, etc...), greater involvement in the international community (which may include fair trade over free trade, but still preferring increased trade), increasing openness to international migration (immigration, refugees, asylum seekers), and emphasizing cosmopolitan values in our politics, media, and education.

Increasing nationalism includes decreasing involvement in or withdrawing from international and transnational organizations (EU, UN, etc...), less involvement in the international community (which may include reforming or eliminating existing trade deals and perhaps implementing tariffs), closing borders to international migration (immigration, refugees, asylum seekers), and emphasizing national values (American, French, British, etc...) in our politics, media, and education.

[JA]

I am 100% for greater globalization and would like to see the process altered a bit to be more socially just, but overall I want it increased and sped up.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Globalization, in every parameter.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

I call out both sides.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Reagan style nationalism >> Globalism >>>>>>>>>>>>>Le pen style nationalism

[TheSaint250]

I like a sense of nationalism (aka caring for citizens and putting them first) with a mix of globalization, just not extreme "let's sell out the country" globalization

[MAINEiac4434]

Globalization, in every parameter.

[Blue3]

I want there to be a global government one day (preferably by the United States peacefully absorbing the rest of the world gradually), so pro-globalization.

It's not always executed well, though.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I support Globalization when it comes to trade, pro immigrant , and resolving conflicts. I do NOT support globalism on international law should overide national law

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I don't believe in cultural relativism, so I oppose nationalism.

[JA]

I want there to be a global government one day (preferably by the United States peacefully absorbing the rest of the world gradually), so pro-globalization.

It's not always executed well, though.

wut

[Maxwell]

unfettered globalization is bad, but unfettered nationalism is much, much worse.

[Blue3]

I want there to be a global government one day (preferably by the United States peacefully absorbing the rest of the world gradually), so pro-globalization.

It's not always executed well, though.

wut

My dream-scenario is for the US to absorb Canada, the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand sometime before 2100 (since there would be no language barrier, and they're already developed economies, and not too populated). So, we get 13 new states from Canada from its 10 provinces and 3 territories, around 10-20 from the UK from England/Wales/Scotland/NorthernIreland and its overseas territories like Bermuda and the Falklands, 8 from Australia's 6 states and 2 territories, 2-3 from NZ, probably 2-3 from the Republic of Ireland. Plus granting statehood to the US's territories. And then, with time, absorb other countries. Maybe Europe by 2200. Maybe Latin America and India by 2300. Combine with making the English language even more prevalent worldwide so every student becomes fluent in it as a first or second language in elementary school in every country, and helping the rest of the world with its economic development. Eventually, maybe by like 2800, the United States is the only remaining country, having peacefully absorbed the rest. And, to prevent states' rights from leading to another civil war, also change our system from federal to unitary (still have states, but no more "states' rights"), and just rename the USA to a simple "the Union" like it was known under Lincoln. Keeping the Senate without expanding doesn't make sense, but if the US becomes a world government (and beyond, with space colonies in the Solar System) then it makes sense to keep the Senate around longer until concepts of liberty and democracy are the norm throughout the world like it's within the US, Canada, Western Europe, Australia, etc. today.

When I said global government, I didn't want people to think I meant some undemocratic institution like the current EU or UN.

And yes, of course globalization has not been executed well. But that's no reason to declare globalization as always bad, or that they way we've globalized so far is the only way.

[Antonio the Sixth]

"Globalization" can mean a variety of different things.

[Green Line]

Both have their good and bad sides.  Some would say Hitler was a globalist.

[White Trash]

Civic nationalism.

[TJ in Oregon]

I believe nations should strive for peaceful, strong, productive relationships with each other, especially their neighbors. But I also do believe they ought to remain nations, not branch offices of a world state. I think the point of a healthy cosmopolitanism is that different cultures are actually different from each other, in terms of customs and beliefs. That doesn't mean there aren't truths that transcend cultural lines and unite all of humanity.

Distancing the officials from those they represent leads to added resentment and spite. I'm always amazed at some of the people I talk to in Madison who have no apparent understanding whatsoever of Trumpism despite being from rust belt places. I suspect the politicians (in both parties) traversing the DC cocktail circuit experience a similar disconnect. Removing the lines around the countries will likely make this worse not better.

I am of the view that being a part of the community in which you live is very important thing to do. If you have no community, you've cut yourself off from everyone besides yourself, or as Theresa May would say, "if you believe you are a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere".

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Well, globalism has resulted in the rise of demagogues amidst growing anomie and atomization...

[Blue3]

Well, globalism has resulted in the rise of demagogues amidst growing anomie and atomization...

That's like blaming the KKK on Lincoln.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Well, globalism has resulted in the rise of demagogues amidst growing anomie and atomization...

That's like blaming the KKK on Lincoln.

Or George W. Bush for the rise of the Islamic State?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Well, globalism has resulted in the rise of demagogues amidst growing anomie and atomization...

That's like blaming the KKK on Lincoln.

Or George W. Bush for the rise of the Islamic State?

Leftists blamed bush for everything even a hurricane

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The mismanagement of social conditions results in a reaction, of sorts, from various members of society that are materially or ideologically threatened by such mismanagement. We can see the consequences of that with Tsarism's abject mismanagement of Russia up to 1917. The mismanagement of the post-Cold War order is now seeing some of its most significant pushback. To say that people should simply "deal with it" is to ignore the fact that there are consequences for those in power.

[Lumine]

Appreciative as I am of the many positive aspects of Globalization, it's Nationalism for me (within a reasonable sense).

[Beet]

Globalization is the future, even if it may be a very long term one. In the short term, if we can just avoid nuclear war or the equivalent, that'd be nice.

[Goldwater]

Globalization, in every parameter.