Jimmy Carter voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries

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He's a good man, but my democratic vote would have gone to Gerald Ford had I been alive in 76' Ford really should have won that race.

Nixon screwed him. And I probably would've voted for Reagan in the 80's knowing what I know now about macroeconomics.

If it was Trump vs Reagan, I would take Trump a 100 out of 100 times ! Reagan is probably more extreme than Ted freaking Cruz !

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Reagan is probably more extreme than Cruz forget Kasich. I find it hard to put him in a box, he is definitely a Freedom Caucus type person. But more importantly, he did more damage to the economic system, working class & middle class than any President in history which Trump n Cruz are totally incapable of doing.

Trump may say stupid or even mildly racist statements but he is way to the left of Reagan in economics & social issues. Atleast the man has some heart deep inside, I can't say that about a monster like Reagan. Go read his 1980 & 1984 party platform, you get an idea about the man. I have always disliked Reagan !

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Reagan is probably more extreme than Cruz forget Kasich. I find it hard to put him in a box, he is definitely a Freedom Caucus type person. But more importantly, he did more damage to the economic system, working class & middle class than any President in history which Trump n Cruz are totally incapable of doing.

Trump may say stupid or even mildly racist statements but he is way to the left of Reagan in economics & social issues. Atleast the man has some heart deep inside, I can't say that about a monster like Reagan. Go read his 1980 & 1984 party platform, you get an idea about the man. I have always disliked Reagan !

Did u forget Reagan unlike the Freedom Caucus was always ready to compromise . Reagan never would propose privatizing social security , or doing a flat tax.

On results , Reagan presidency had produced some of the best results of any president in the past 50 years easily.

Reagan slashed the estate tax, corporate tax & income tax massively. Arguing for a flat tax today is less radical than cutting taxes from 70% to 30% or less! Reagan never had explosive growth like FDR, his growth rate was above average at best, less than Clinton & possibly less than Carter. But what he did is unprecedented. He totally changed the income distribution & destroyed the middle class & working class & made wealth concentrated in the hands of a few - He initiated, shaped & created the 40 year decline of the middle class. Ofcourse he was a an uber social conservative & challenged Roe vs Wade etc like no other Republican President did !

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Some key words from Reagan's 1980 Platform

The aggregate burden of taxation is so great that the average American spends a substantial part of every year working for government. These same tax policies subsidize debt, unemployment, and consumption. The present structure of the personal income tax system is designed to broaden the gap between effort and reward. The Democratic Congress has produced a jumble of degrading, dehumanizing, wasteful, overlapping, and inefficient programs that invite waste and fraud. The Democrats have deliberately perpetuated a status of federally subsidized poverty and manipulated dependency. Our nation's tax policies provide a penalty for getting a job. If necessary, the Republican Party will seek to adopt a Constitutional amendment to limit federal spending.  

The Democrats have presided over the most monstrous expansion and abuse of the food stamp They have sacrificed the needy to the greedy, and sent the welfare bills to the taxpayers. We oppose federalizing the welfare system. We support a block grant program.  Decisions about who gets welfare, and how much, can be better made on the local level. . Government's power to take and tax, to regulate and require, has already reached extravagant proportions. Republicans support a comprehensive program of regulatory reform, improved incentives, and revision of cumbersome and overly stringent Clean Air Act regulations.

We deplore Mr. Carter's personal attempts to rewrite history on defense budgets. His tough speeches before military audiences cannot hide his continuing opposition to Congressional defense increases. We associate ourselves with the characterization by Democratic Congressional leaders of the President's behavior on defense as "hypocritical." We would go further; it is disgraceful.

We affirm our support of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children. We condemn the forced busing of school children to achieve arbitrary racial quotas.We advocate the reform of Medicare to encourage home-based care whenever feasible.

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Some lines from Reagan's 1984 Presidential campaign -

We will work for the constitutional amendment requiring a balanced federal budget. If Congress fails to act, a constitutional convention should be convened to address only this issue. The President is denied proper control over the federal budget.

Arbitrary minimum wage rates have eliminated hundreds of thousands of jobs. We encourage the adoption of a youth opportunity wage to encourage employers to hire and train inexperienced workers.

By centralizing responsibility for social programs in Washington, liberal experimenters destroyed the sense of community that sustains local institutions. They literally broke up neighborhoods and devastated rural communities. Washington's governing elite thought they knew better than the people how to spend the people's money. They played fast and loose with our schools, with law enforcement, with welfare, with housing. Worst of all, they tried to build their brave new world by assaulting our basic values. They attacked the integrity of the family and parental rights.

Government created a hellish cycle of dependency. Family cohesion was shattered, both by providing economic incentives to set up maternal households and by usurping the breadwinner's economic role in intact families. We have begun to clean up the welfare mess. Federal administration of welfare is the worst possible & programs and resources must be returned to State and local governments .We will support block grants to combine duplicative programs under State administration. We will employ the latest technology to combat welfare fraud in order to protect the needy from the greedy.

Education is a matter of choice. Classroom materials should be developed and produced by the private sector in the public marketplace, and then selections should be made at the State, local, and school levels. We will convert the Chapter One grants to vouchers, thereby giving poor parents the ability to choose the best schooling available. Welfare programs have devastated low-income families and induced single parenthood among teens. The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We therefore reaffirm our support for a human life amendment to the Constitution.

In light of the inhibiting role federal election laws and regulations have had, Congress should consider abolishing the Federal Election Commission.

This is ignoring his tax policy about which we can also discuss - I mean look at this language - Trump & the Republicans will be butchered if they had this kind of language today !

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Some key words from Reagan's 1980 Platform

The aggregate burden of taxation is so great that the average American spends a substantial part of every year working for government. These same tax policies subsidize debt, unemployment, and consumption. The present structure of the personal income tax system is designed to broaden the gap between effort and reward.The Democratic Congress has produced a jumble of degrading, dehumanizing, wasteful, overlapping, and inefficient programs that invite waste and fraud. The Democrats have deliberately perpetuated a status of federally subsidized poverty and manipulated dependency. Our nation's tax policies provide a penalty for getting a job. If necessary, the Republican Party will seek to adopt a Constitutional amendment to limit federal spending.  

The Democrats have presided over the most monstrous expansion and abuse of the food stamp They have sacrificed the needy to the greedy, and sent the welfare bills to the taxpayers. We oppose federalizing the welfare system. We support a block grant program.  Decisions about who gets welfare, and how much, can be better made on the local level. . Government's power to take and tax, to regulate and require, has already reached extravagant proportions. Republicans support a comprehensive program of regulatory reform, improved incentives, and revision of cumbersome and overly stringent Clean Air Act regulations.

We deplore Mr. Carter's personal attempts to rewrite history on defense budgets. His tough speeches before military audiences cannot hide his continuing opposition to Congressional defense increases. We associate ourselves with the characterization by Democratic Congressional leaders of the President's behavior on defense as "hypocritical." We would go further; it is disgraceful.

We affirm our support of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children. We condemn the forced busing of school children to achieve arbitrary racial quotas.We advocate the reform of Medicare to encourage home-based care whenever feasible.

Everything except the last bold sentence is not wrong

This is Ted Cruz level ! And these policies are in the garbage can with most economists. Even IMF has trashed it in it's recent documents calling it a total joke & failure. It has got to a point where GDP growth (which was nothing spectacular) is totally meaningless as the bottom half will get nothing out of it.

Post-Reagan policies literally are creating a class warfare scenario in the future when radical more extreme version than Trump will come in the right & also in the left ! Donald Trump is way better than Reagan in economic & social issues, atleast the man has a heart some where !

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Reagan is probably more extreme than Cruz forget Kasich. I find it hard to put him in a box, he is definitely a Freedom Caucus type person. But more importantly, he did more damage to the economic system, working class & middle class than any President in history which Trump n Cruz are totally incapable of doing.

Trump may say stupid or even mildly racist statements but he is way to the left of Reagan in economics & social issues. Atleast the man has some heart deep inside, I can't say that about a monster like Reagan. Go read his 1980 & 1984 party platform, you get an idea about the man. I have always disliked Reagan !

Did u forget Reagan unlike the Freedom Caucus was always ready to compromise . Reagan never would propose privatizing social security , or doing a flat tax.

On results , Reagan presidency had produced some of the best results of any president in the past 50 years easily.

Reagan slashed the estate tax, corporate tax & income tax massively. Arguing for a flat tax today is less radical than cutting taxes from 70% to 30% or less! Reagan never had explosive growth like FDR, his growth rate was above average at best, less than Clinton & possibly less than Carter. But what he did is unprecedented. He totally changed the income distribution & destroyed the middle class & working class & made wealth concentrated in the hands of a few - He initiated, shaped & created the 40 year decline of the middle class. Ofcourse he was a an uber social conservative & challenged Roe vs Wade etc like no other Republican President did !

His tax reform was great, the tax rate a the time was basically confiscatory and so is any income tax above 50% except in maybe a situation like WW2. Have you hear of the Laffer Curve too when you raise taxes beyond a certian limit you take in less revenue and 70% was certainly doing that.


Tax Revenue Per GDP in 1980 was 18.5% and in 1989 was 17.9% the problem was that spending skyrocketed.


Oh and here at his tax plan only favored the rich BS: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/31/business/who-paid-the-most-taxes-in-the-80-s-the-superrich.html

Laffer Curve has been scientifically disproven for decades now! And some of the most recent research by studying empirical data by great economists has really trashed the Laffer curve. As someone who studied a bit of economics, I can tell you very few people take it seriously (there's 100 different assumptions that go into a Laffer curve to even make it work).

This really has nothing to do with WWII. From the 1933, post FDR to 1980 odd the top marginal rate varied from 70% to 94% (an average of 80%) which created the middle class. As matter of fact, FDR's economic growth was essentially untouched in US history & it started (with massive fall in unemployment) many many years before WWII. Having a top tax rate of 70% doesn't mean the guy will pay 70%, it will probably come out 30-40-50% maybe because of different income slabs, progressive taxes & deductions.

Here is a scientific well acknowledged economic term - Marginal propensity to consume (MPC) - How many $ out of 100 will you spend which will determine the backbone of GDP (consumption) which is much MUCH higher among low income & middle class. The more concentration of wealth is among billionaires, the worse it is for economic growth! That is a scientifically proven economic fact !

Also notion is totally incorrect that since the rich paid more taxes the policies didn't favour them . Most of the wealth is with uber rich people. They will naturally pay more. Do the poor even have the money to pay more in taxes ?i/i]

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Some key words from Reagan's 1980 Platform

The aggregate burden of taxation is so great that the average American spends a substantial part of every year working for government. These same tax policies subsidize debt, unemployment, and consumption. The present structure of the personal income tax system is designed to broaden the gap between effort and reward.The Democratic Congress has produced a jumble of degrading, dehumanizing, wasteful, overlapping, and inefficient programs that invite waste and fraud. The Democrats have deliberately perpetuated a status of federally subsidized poverty and manipulated dependency. Our nation's tax policies provide a penalty for getting a job. If necessary, the Republican Party will seek to adopt a Constitutional amendment to limit federal spending.  

The Democrats have presided over the most monstrous expansion and abuse of the food stamp They have sacrificed the needy to the greedy, and sent the welfare bills to the taxpayers. We oppose federalizing the welfare system. We support a block grant program.  Decisions about who gets welfare, and how much, can be better made on the local level. . Government's power to take and tax, to regulate and require, has already reached extravagant proportions. Republicans support a comprehensive program of regulatory reform, improved incentives, and revision of cumbersome and overly stringent Clean Air Act regulations.

We deplore Mr. Carter's personal attempts to rewrite history on defense budgets. His tough speeches before military audiences cannot hide his continuing opposition to Congressional defense increases. We associate ourselves with the characterization by Democratic Congressional leaders of the President's behavior on defense as "hypocritical." We would go further; it is disgraceful.

We affirm our support of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children. We condemn the forced busing of school children to achieve arbitrary racial quotas.We advocate the reform of Medicare to encourage home-based care whenever feasible.

Everything except the last bold sentence is not wrong

This is Ted Cruz level ! And these policies are in the garbage can with most economists. Even IMF has trashed it in it's recent documents calling it a total joke & failure. It has got to a point where GDP growth (which was nothing spectacular) is totally meaningless as the bottom half will get nothing out of it.

Post-Reagan policies literally are creating a class warfare scenario in the future when radical more extreme version than Trump will come in the right & also in the left ! Donald Trump is way better than Reagan in economic & social issues, atleast the man has a heart some where !

except then people's money was getting confiscated and the government got way to big.


On Social Issues Dubya was to the right of Reagan

This big government & confistication stuff is essentially a good term to create policies which will enormously benefit rich billionaires & screw over everyone else. From a pure economic sense, it is disastrous for there to be too much concentration of wealth among a few.

Secondly, that money is earned by virtue of being there, getting that free public education, social safety net, good universities, law & order, a large market to deal with. Can any of these people go & live in Greenland & make money? They need to sell their product to the millions & that is how they make money! Can they be that rich by selling their product in Africa & getting education there? Nope !
Anyways nice talking to you, I think we will agree to disagree there since you are a big Reagan supporter & I thoroughly despise his policies !