BREAKING: Trump Fires Comey

[136or142]

So.....all the bitching in earlier months that comey needs to be fired is out the window because the guy you hate ended up doing it?

Pure hypocrisy.

So hey, do you believe anything about Trump and Russia? Or are you cool with everything in that department?

I'm guessing you actually don't mind that the investigation might be hurt because you don't want the truth eh?

Despite all the witch hunt hysteria that's been going on for months now over this Trump/Russia conspiracy theory one has been able to produce actual evidence that withstands scrutiny to back up the claims that Trump campaign was linked to Russian hacking of the election or that the Russians even hacked the election in the first place.

Nice bait and switch.  The investigation has nothing to do with any alleged Russian hacking.  That was what the recounts were about and no hacking was found, so obviously neither Trump nor his campaign are being investigated for that.

[Nyvin]

[TheSaint250]

So.....all the bitching in earlier months that comey needs to be fired is out the window because the guy you hate ended up doing it?

Pure hypocrisy.

So hey, do you believe anything about Trump and Russia? Or are you cool with everything in that department?

I'm guessing you actually don't mind that the investigation might be hurt because you don't want the truth eh?

Despite all the witch hunt hysteria that's been going on for months now over this Trump/Russia conspiracy theory one has been able to produce actual evidence that withstands scrutiny to back up the claims that Trump campaign was linked to Russian hacking of the election or that the Russians even hacked the election in the first place.

Nice bait and switch.  The investigation has nothing to do with any alleged Russian hacking.  That was what the recounts were about and no hacking was found, so obviously neither Trump nor his campaign are being investigated for that.

It kinda does.  Not of the election but of Hillary, Dems, etc. It's about whether or not Trump's campaign colluded to do this or not.

[TheSaint250]

Cox = independent investigator
Comey = man who f***ed up multiple times

Literally the FBI had to correct his testimony

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/james-comey-huma-abedin-anthony-weiner-emails/

[Doimper]

Well let's explore the example more. Let's say the suspicions were that I ran a huge child prostitution ring in fact. Let's say the investigation began about a year ago, less than that, and started because of happenstance and that a serious investigation only started happening a couple of months ago. Let's say that several of my associates have raised questions about me.

Shouldn't a massive investigation require time - including more than just several months? And shouldn't it be fully funded and fully staffed to either  clear my name or prosecute me?

If a fully funded investigation has been going on for months and has still found absolutely no evidence to back up these claims then maybe questions should be asked about whether such an investigation is justified.

As for 'clearing names' its not the job of an FBI or police investigation to 'clear' anybody's name. If they don't find evidence that can be given to a prosecutor and they stop investigating the that's it. 'Clearing' people is something done by courts, not by police or FBI.

As for your suggestion that this whole thing started by 'happenstance' that's highly doubtful. Much more likely that this has been a witch hunt from the very start.

You're are an amazing voice of reason. It's refreshing.

This site used to actually be a reasonable place for people to discuss politics and election strategies without the annoying 'bumper sticker' politics.

Now it's just bumper sticker politics.

Is that really true? This forum has ALWAYS been on the far-left side of the political spectrum.

Even the so-called "moderates" are rather center-left. The main website has always been a great repository of elections data. The maps and statistics are virtually unmatched by any resource anywhere. Yet for some reason, the forum attracts far more socialists and communists than right-wing conservatives.

The few conservatives here are constantly hounded, and consistently the subject of petitions to be banned. Anyone that doesn't toe the far-left line is ridiculed.

If you look at the self-reported political positions of the forum, and the predictions of said forum, you'd find something squarely in the mainstream.... of DailyKos or Democratic Underground.

Is it uncomfortable up on that cross?

Someone just reported one of my post.

I didn't violate any rules on this site.

They reported it because they didn't like my opinion.

Wasn't me, persecution complex boy

[ApatheticAustrian]

I for one think there should be an independent investigation just to close this once and for all, but my belief is not because of the firing of Comey. This is just a stupid attempt to make Trump seem corrupt.

trump IS corrupt, this is a no-brainer of an accusation and one of his more harmless traits.

[The_Doctor]

Wait this isn't the first Trump investigation firing. Preet Bharara was also investigating some stuff and was fired too.

[Nyvin]

Now imagine we have a President Clinton. Boy oh boy, the Trump Brigade would be pissed!

Many probably would. Comey still should have been fired though.

Although, unlike Trump, there was actual undeniable proof that Clinton broke multiple feral laws. But she was was not prosecuted because Comey didn't want to sack a presidential nominee.

Which is ironic. Because had he done his job, Biden would have stepped in and probably crushed Trump.

Clinton broke no "federal" laws....if anything they were loose regulations with no written punishments.

Trump has already been brought to court and found guilty in multiple lawsuits (Like Trump University) that says he broke laws.

And there are so many Trump admin./Russia connections you'd need a gas mask not to feel all the smoke in the room.

[TheSaint250]

I for one think there should be an independent investigation just to close this once and for all, but my belief is not because of the firing of Comey. This is just a stupid attempt to make Trump seem corrupt.

trump IS corrupt, this is a no-brainer of an accusation and one of his more harmless traits.

Yeah, 100%. No actual proof needed. he is 100% corrupt. yeah I'm going to become a democrat now and worship hillary and bernie you've convinced me

[Mehmentum]

Guys, not liking Comey and being freaked out by Trump's firing of him are not mutually exclusive positions.

I shed no tears for Comey, but this isn't about him, this is much much bigger.

[Nyvin]

I for one think there should be an independent investigation just to close this once and for all, but my belief is not because of the firing of Comey. This is just a stupid attempt to make Trump seem corrupt.

Almost the entire Democratic Senate caucus has been calling for an independent investigation into the Russia Scandal....

[TheSaint250]

^ ok...and?

[Nyvin]

anyone who honestly thinks that if any evidence existed of a direct collusion between Trump and Russia that it would not have been leaked to CNN months ago is naive

Too bad Republicans didn't have the same logic toward Benghazi.

[ajc0918]

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This is just silly if these sources are accurate... how did they NOT expect this kind of reaction? LOL.

[Yank2133]

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"Malevolence tempered by incompetence."

[ApatheticAustrian]

Yeah, 100%. No actual proof needed. he is 100% corrupt. yeah I'm going to become a democrat now and worship hillary and bernie you've convinced me

i wouldn't even know how to start guessing how to make a case for the opposite claim.

his amount of transparency-lacking financial connections and the dozens of shady deals his family has proposed since the election are speaking for themselves.

and as i said...one of his most harmless traits.

[MAINEiac4434]

How can they be so stupid?

[Nyvin]

Federal Employees Fired by Trump:

Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
James Comey

Federal Employees investigating Trump:

Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
James Comey

[ApatheticAustrian]

On CNN, @KellyannePolls says she can name many people around Trump who are not currently under investigation for colluding with Russia
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/862105849258545152

[Beet]

Guys, not liking Comey and being freaked out by Trump's firing of him are not mutually exclusive positions.

I shed no tears for Comey, but this isn't about him, this is much much bigger.

Exactly. One can both think Comey unfit for the position and doubt that Trump all of a sudden thinks the Comey Letter was a mistake. Just a couple days ago he tweeted that Comey was "the best thing that happened" to Hillary, now all of a sudden he's adopting the polar opposite position? Regardless there must be an independent investigation over the Russian wikileaks situation.

[ProudModerate2]

It's good to know democrats love James Comey now, pathetic hacks

I don't think people are defending Comey. They're questioning the timing.
Better late than never, but why right after Comey gave that testimony?

Yes.  Both of these can be true:

1. Comey has made some serious mistakes over the past year, and probably needed to go.

2. Trump's firing of Comey at this time reeks of conflict of interest.

Agree.

[The_Doctor]

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This is why the White House is generally incompetent. They didn't understand that Watergate is a cultural lodestar and the concept of a president abusing his power is deeply ingrained in the public imagination.

Everyday I realize more and more that the president isn't a politician and is seriously unaware of how to manage affairs of politics and state. Does anyone think President Rubio or Walker wouldn't have covered their behinds? Heck President Kasich would be right now soaring into the 60s.

Every single day politicians cover themselves and think out every move.  months ahead of time. This is why. They know the more fire they get the worse they are off. This isn't House of Cards where the president can do things like this and not get blowback.

Trump has just given his critics a huge reason to doubt his innocence on Russia.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Comey thought it was a prank and laughed when news of his firing flashed on the TV


https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/862106173465649160

[The_Doctor]

Comey thought it was a prank and laughed when news of his firing flashed on the TV


https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/862106173465649160

Sheer incompetence.

[Hindsight was 2020]

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This is just silly if these sources are accurate... how did they NOT expect this kind of reaction? LOL.

Because it's Trump stupid and corrupt go hand in hand