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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2003, 08:07:01 AM »

For all those listing listing candidates like Dick Gephardt, and Kuchinich as cabinet members, I wouldn't get your hopes up. They are negatively attacking Dean who will win the nomination. Clark is the best shot. the next colin powell

Clark is not as smart as Powell.

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I agree.
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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2003, 11:09:31 AM »

For all those listing listing candidates like Dick Gephardt, and Kuchinich as cabinet members, I wouldn't get your hopes up. They are negatively attacking Dean who will win the nomination. Clark is the best shot. the next colin powell

Clark is not as smart as Powell.

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good post Al.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2003, 03:22:03 PM »

I think that Dean picking Clark as a running mate would be too predictable for that loveable irratic governor of ours.  I think that Dean is politically smart and thus would pick someone from the South.  Edwards is too young and would ecclipse Dean's image of being the vibrant one.  Someone new would go against Dean's hope of uniting the Democratic party (two outsiders won't work).  I predict that Senator Graham will get the second place on the ticket, despite any of his previous reservations.  He's already backed down and put himself in the perfect place to eventually endorse Dean when the time is right.  With Graham, Dean will have a shot at Florida and some southern moderate states.  The question remains just how much impact will a Veep slot have on a North Eastern governor.  Personally, I'm hopeful, but not stupid.
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2003, 03:25:57 PM »

Listen to what we can do with Feingold:
Solidfy Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, open up Ohio, and Mizzo.  Edwards could Open up Arkansas, Louisiana, maybe Mizzo, and NC, but he wouldn't solidfy anything.  Calrk would have the same effect.

Gephardt won't run with Dean after they have been ripping each other's heads off for months now.
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2003, 03:35:13 PM »

Listen to what we can do with Feingold:
Solidfy Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, open up Ohio, and Mizzo.  Edwards could Open up Arkansas, Louisiana, maybe Mizzo, and NC, but he wouldn't solidfy anything.  Calrk would have the same effect.

Gephardt won't run with Dean after they have been ripping each other's heads off for months now.
VPs really don't do that much other then fill the ticket.
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2003, 03:36:05 PM »

Listen to what we can do with Feingold:
Solidfy Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, open up Ohio, and Mizzo.  Edwards could Open up Arkansas, Louisiana, maybe Mizzo, and NC, but he wouldn't solidfy anything.  Calrk would have the same effect.

Gephardt won't run with Dean after they have been ripping each other's heads off for months now.
VPs really don't do that much other then fill the ticket.
They can help regionally.
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2003, 03:37:05 PM »

Listen to what we can do with Feingold:
Solidfy Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, open up Ohio, and Mizzo.  Edwards could Open up Arkansas, Louisiana, maybe Mizzo, and NC, but he wouldn't solidfy anything.  Calrk would have the same effect.

Gephardt won't run with Dean after they have been ripping each other's heads off for months now.
VPs really don't do that much other then fill the ticket.
They can help regionally.
Not really.  The top of the ticket is what get's people out to vote.
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2003, 03:38:08 PM »

Listen to what we can do with Feingold:
Solidfy Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, open up Ohio, and Mizzo.  Edwards could Open up Arkansas, Louisiana, maybe Mizzo, and NC, but he wouldn't solidfy anything.  Calrk would have the same effect.

Gephardt won't run with Dean after they have been ripping each other's heads off for months now.
VPs really don't do that much other then fill the ticket.
They can help regionally.
Not really.  The top of the ticket is what get's people out to vote.
VP's do matter somewhat.
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2003, 03:39:45 PM »

Listen to what we can do with Feingold:
Solidfy Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, open up Ohio, and Mizzo.  Edwards could Open up Arkansas, Louisiana, maybe Mizzo, and NC, but he wouldn't solidfy anything.  Calrk would have the same effect.

Gephardt won't run with Dean after they have been ripping each other's heads off for months now.
VPs really don't do that much other then fill the ticket.
They can help regionally.
Not really.  The top of the ticket is what get's people out to vote.
VP's do matter somewhat.
Not in any way that effects EV.
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2003, 03:42:45 PM »

Agreed(what about Gephardt as sec. of Labor?)

Never happen.  Gepardt and Dean hate each other.  Just like Gepardt and Gore hate each other.
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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2003, 03:45:03 PM »

Agreed(what about Gephardt as sec. of Labor?)

Never happen.  Gepardt and Dean hate each other.  Just like Gepardt and Gore hate each other.

That's what I've been saying.
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« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2003, 03:46:02 PM »

Graham is anti-war with experience in dc but leaving and would fit with Dean and seems the likely choice.

but then Ar and LA and MO would be safe and Bush still carries FL.


I think that Dean picking Clark as a running mate would be too predictable for that loveable irratic governor of ours.  I think that Dean is politically smart and thus would pick someone from the South.  Edwards is too young and would ecclipse Dean's image of being the vibrant one.  Someone new would go against Dean's hope of uniting the Democratic party (two outsiders won't work).  I predict that Senator Graham will get the second place on the ticket, despite any of his previous reservations.  He's already backed down and put himself in the perfect place to eventually endorse Dean when the time is right.  With Graham, Dean will have a shot at Florida and some southern moderate states.  The question remains just how much impact will a Veep slot have on a North Eastern governor.  Personally, I'm hopeful, but not stupid.
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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2003, 03:51:03 PM »

I think that they are safe regardless.

Graham is anti-war with experience in dc but leaving and would fit with Dean and seems the likely choice.

but then Ar and LA and MO would be safe and Bush still carries FL.


I think that Dean picking Clark as a running mate would be too predictable for that loveable irratic governor of ours.  I think that Dean is politically smart and thus would pick someone from the South.  Edwards is too young and would ecclipse Dean's image of being the vibrant one.  Someone new would go against Dean's hope of uniting the Democratic party (two outsiders won't work).  I predict that Senator Graham will get the second place on the ticket, despite any of his previous reservations.  He's already backed down and put himself in the perfect place to eventually endorse Dean when the time is right.  With Graham, Dean will have a shot at Florida and some southern moderate states.  The question remains just how much impact will a Veep slot have on a North Eastern governor.  Personally, I'm hopeful, but not stupid.
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« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2003, 03:56:44 PM »

Me 2, but no matter who dean picks some states will swing from close GOP to leaning GOP.  His liberalisim will hurt him the most of course in these conservative states.  However, you never know about a fav son vote such as Clark with Arkansas, but I guess he has hardly lived there being inthe military all the time.

I think that they are safe regardless.

Graham is anti-war with experience in dc but leaving and would fit with Dean and seems the likely choice.

but then Ar and LA and MO would be safe and Bush still carries FL.


I think that Dean picking Clark as a running mate would be too predictable for that loveable irratic governor of ours.  I think that Dean is politically smart and thus would pick someone from the South.  Edwards is too young and would ecclipse Dean's image of being the vibrant one.  Someone new would go against Dean's hope of uniting the Democratic party (two outsiders won't work).  I predict that Senator Graham will get the second place on the ticket, despite any of his previous reservations.  He's already backed down and put himself in the perfect place to eventually endorse Dean when the time is right.  With Graham, Dean will have a shot at Florida and some southern moderate states.  The question remains just how much impact will a Veep slot have on a North Eastern governor.  Personally, I'm hopeful, but not stupid.
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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2003, 04:18:58 PM »

If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.
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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2003, 04:45:42 PM »

But Edwards doesn't want the job and Graham does, that is obvious.


If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.
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« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2003, 04:46:54 PM »

But Edwards doesn't want the job and Graham does, that is obvious.


If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.
I still think Edwards would tak it if it is offered to him.
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« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2003, 04:52:56 PM »

great!  as Bush would still carry NC and not much is gained, except it keeps Edwards alive for 2008.


But Edwards doesn't want the job and Graham does, that is obvious.


If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.
I still think Edwards would tak it if it is offered to him.
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« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2003, 08:58:30 PM »

I can't think of a logical choice for a Dean's VP.  I would think that he'd want to balance the ticket geographically which rules out Lieberman, Kerry, Biden, among others.  It seems as though he'd want someone experienced to run with him which pretty much kills Edwards as a realistic choice.  He might not want two anti-war candidates on the same ticket.  If so, that rules out Clark and Graham.

Gephardt wouldn't take the no. 2 spot I don't think.  Who's left?
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« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2003, 09:05:07 PM »

I can't think of a logical choice for a Dean's VP.  I would think that he'd want to balance the ticket geographically which rules out Lieberman, Kerry, Biden, among others.  It seems as though he'd want someone experienced to run with him which pretty much kills Edwards as a realistic choice.  He might not want two anti-war candidates on the same ticket.  If so, that rules out Clark and Graham.

Gephardt wouldn't take the no. 2 spot I don't think.  Who's left?
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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2004, 11:15:59 AM »

If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2004, 12:47:25 PM »

If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
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Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.
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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2004, 12:50:59 PM »

If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
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Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.

Edwards flatly refused any offers to be VP.  I don't know if he'll stick to it, but not doing so would hurt his credibility.  That wouldn't be a good thing seeing as Dean already has a credibility gap of his own.
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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2004, 12:52:16 PM »

If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
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Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.

Edwards flatly refused any offers to be VP.  I don't know if he'll stick to it, but not doing so would hurt his credibility.  That wouldn't be a good thing seeing as Dean already has a credibility gap of his own.
I think Edwards would accept the VP slot if it is offered to him.
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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2004, 01:08:32 PM »

If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
Hello from Melbourne international!

Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.

Edwards flatly refused any offers to be VP.  I don't know if he'll stick to it, but not doing so would hurt his credibility.  That wouldn't be a good thing seeing as Dean already has a credibility gap of his own.
I think Edwards would accept the VP slot if it is offered to him.
I don't think he would.
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