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« on: May 10, 2017, 07:43:56 PM »

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332810-dakota-access-pipeline-leaks-84-gallons-of-oil-in-sd

but those fcking r*****ns are rioting over nothing, this is the Safest Pipeline Ever Built™, amirite?
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 08:04:46 PM »

And how many gallons would be spilled when even one 27000+ gallon rail car leaks?  Comparing no DAPL to no oil transport at all is foolish.  The idea that no DAPL would mean the oil would stay in the ground is sheer idiocy.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 08:53:29 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2017, 08:56:09 PM by hermit »

Excellent article.

https://thinkprogress.org/data-oil-trains-spill-more-often-but-pipelines-spill-bigger-9533009d4aba

"Data: Oil Trains Spill More Often, But Pipelines Spill Bigger

Which is safer: pipeline or rail?

When a pipeline bursts, it can be harder to contain than a leaking oil tanker — only a certain, contained amount can spill out of a single punctured rail car. A pipeline can just keep spilling until the operator shuts down the flow, and will usually continue to gush until it’s empty. Large oil spills pose major, long-term risks to human health and the environment.
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But when a rail car tips over while traveling at 40 to 50 miles per hour, it has a much larger chance of exploding. That’s a more immediate threat to human life if it happens in a populated area, not to mention the smoke and fumes that are released into the air from the open burning of hydrocarbons.
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So there are two separate arguments to make. You could say that more-frequent rail accidents make crude-by-rail an inherently more dangerous game than pipelines, because locomotives travel at high speeds and are more likely to explode and kill people. Or you could also say that larger spills from pipelines are worse, because they’re tough to clean up and pose long-term risks to human and environmental health.
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Or, you could choose a third argument: that both rail and pipelines pose serious risks to human health, and instead of forcing people to choose between two dangerous options, we should focus on improving the safety of both modes of transport while transitioning to inherently less dangerous sources of energy."
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 09:52:22 PM »

What the hell happens when it leaks oil into the water? This is drinking water & what not ! Crazy ! They should have atleast re-routed the pipeline !
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 09:54:30 PM »

Man, Trump and all this winning.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 05:45:00 AM »

nobody should live near anything dangerous!....or loud.  or smelly.  or conservative.  /s



meanwhile...
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 07:15:50 AM »

nobody should live near anything dangerous!....or loud.  or smelly.  or conservative.  /s



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Take a closer look at that map. Notice any geological features associated with the pathways of those oil pipelines in the Upper Midwest (and CA for that matter)?
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 09:44:37 AM »

nobody should live near anything dangerous!....or loud.  or smelly.  or conservative.  /s



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Take a closer look at that map. Notice any geological features associated with the pathways of those oil pipelines in the Upper Midwest (and CA for that matter)?

Sorry, I for one am missing your point. Can you clarify please?
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2017, 10:52:24 AM »

They voted for Trump so who cares what happens to South Dakota.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 12:05:47 PM »

nobody should live near anything dangerous!....or loud.  or smelly.  or conservative.  /s



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Take a closer look at that map. Notice any geological features associated with the pathways of those oil pipelines in the Upper Midwest (and CA for that matter)?

Sorry, I for one am missing your point. Can you clarify please?
indeed, me too.



How many cities with a bigger population than all of S.Dakota have a pipeline in or near them?  48?
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 12:09:42 PM »

They voted for Trump so who cares what happens to South Dakota.

So did you.
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