NYT: Under DeVos, U.S. Crackdown on For-Profit Schools Is Said to Go Idle

[dead0man]

The people you vote for (especially the last person you voted for) have been making a ton of money off of these sh**tty schools for years.  Weird that it's an issue for you now.

[dead0man]

The people you vote for (especially the last person you voted for) have been making a ton of money off of these sh**tty schools for years.  Weird that it's an issue for you now.

the difference, of course, being the last administration cracked down on fake schools while this administration not only loves them but encourages them. Admittedly, in the Obama admin it's too little too late but still.

Also stop with the whataboutery. It's not as poignant as you think it is.

And Obama's buddy Marty Nesbitt thinks he is going to make a killing off of it.  Shady as hell.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton got paid $17.5 million from a for-profit University, some of it while Hillary was SoS.

I don't care if a school is for profit or not.  I do care if schools are screwing over their students, but it doesn't matter if the school is making money or not.  Non-profit schools screw over students too, and they should have their peepee spanked when they do it just like the for profits.  Trump is wrong here just like he is wrong about most things.  Sure, Bill is less wrong for taking money from them, unless of course he or his wife used their pull to benefit the for profit schools....which of course they did.  Which is why I pointed it out.

[dead0man]

The people you vote for (especially the last person you voted for) have been making a ton of money off of these sh**tty schools for years.  Weird that it's an issue for you now.

the difference, of course, being the last administration cracked down on fake schools while this administration not only loves them but encourages them. Admittedly, in the Obama admin it's too little too late but still.

Also stop with the whataboutery. It's not as poignant as you think it is.

And Obama's buddy Marty Nesbitt thinks he is going to make a killing off of it.  Shady as hell.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton got paid $17.5 million from a for-profit University, some of it while Hillary was SoS.

I don't care if a school is for profit or not.  I do care if schools are screwing over their students, but it doesn't matter if the school is making money or not.  Non-profit schools screw over students too, and they should have their peepee spanked when they do it just like the for profits.  Trump is wrong here just like he is wrong about most things.  Sure, Bill is less wrong for taking money from them, unless of course he or his wife used their pull to benefit the for profit schools....which of course they did.  Which is why I pointed it out.

No. Just plain no, Deadman. There was nothing remotely similar in size scope or general intent of the DeVos raging penchant for giving Fly by Night money making private profit schools which screw kids over a complete blank check. Do not do yourself a disservice of deluding yourself into thinking that your vote for Trump open the door for everything you just described and claimed two hate.

If you thought for a second Trump, after running freaking Trump University comma happy with anything separately comma well let's just say I'm voting for Trump yuquot what he was selling Hook Line and send... Well let's just say the package Trump offered you swallowed in tirely.

how in the ....where....why do you think I voted for Trump?  So weird.  Are you new?


I'm sorry your standard knee jerk defenses aren't hitting here.  Perhaps you guys could try reading what I typed instead skimming it and making assumptions?

[dead0man]

For-profit schools serve no purpose other than workforce training. If students are not getting jobs that pay well enough to pay back the loans they borrowed to go there, then it amounts to fraud.

Traditional higher education has never placed "WE'LL GET YOU A JOB!" at the forefront. College was originally basically finishing school for children of the elite. That is no longer the case, but there is still a personal development aspect.

I don't think a person who majored in gender studies at Sarah Lawrence College is going to go straight into a $60K/year job immediately after doing that, but that's not why most people are majoring in gender studies at Sarah Lawrence. However, someone who is majoring in information systems at the University of Phoenix very obviously intends to work in IT and if they cannot do so, that is a problem.

Generally agree with all that.  I agree that colleges don't tend to do the "WE'LL GET YOU A JOB" thing, but everybody else that wants you to go to college does it for them....from counselors to parents and from teachers to the media.  


I'd also say that the person who majored in gender studies shouldn't bitch about student loans.  If you want to go to school for four plus years to get a degree in something society finds so worthless nobody will pay you to do it, you shouldn't expect society to pay for it....but that would be a hijack, so I"m not going to do that