Your Opinion of Moral Issues

[Antonio the Sixth]

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

[America Needs R'hllor]

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

So you want to arrest consenting teenagers because they have sex? Nice addition to the War on Drugs.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

So you want to arrest consenting teenagers because they have sex? Nice addition to the War on Drugs.

[afleitch]

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

I had sex when I was 16, with another 16 year old when the age of consent was still 18. If you want to feign outrage go ahead. It happens. I don't feel the need to police the sex lives of teenagers.

[Person Man]

Birth Control (91%):  a very good thing
Divorce (73%):  a very bad thing
Pre-Marital Sex (69%):  a very pleasant thing
Gambling (65%):  fun and relaxing
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%):  not for me
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%):  not for me
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%):  a very good thing
The Death Penalty (58%):  I'm totally uncomfortable with this
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%):  I'm totally uncomfortable with this
Animal Fur Clothing (57%):  I have no problem with this
Medical Testing on Animals (51%):  It's kinda weird
Abortion (43%):  sometimes necessary
Sex Between Teenagers (36%):  fun, when you're the one doing it
Pornography (36%):  (see gambling)
Cloning Animals (32%):  kinda weird
Suicide (18%):  I'm very uncomfortable with this
Polygamy (17%):  I don't have a problem with this
Cloning humans (14%):  really, really weird
Extramartial Affairs (9%):  unethical, generally

As for "acceptable or unacceptable", it's a strange question:  I accept them all, because all of them exist, and except for capital punishment and cloning of humans, I think that they should all be legal.
  

Pretty much this. I try to keep a more open mind with assisted suicide but don't think gambling is for me.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Birth Control (91%): Depends on form of birth control
Divorce (73%): Unacceptable without fault
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Partially acceptable in a relationship that is clearly headed towards marriage, unacceptable as simply casual sex
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Unacceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Preferable to abortion, but not ideal
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Unacceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Unacceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Massively unacceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Usually unacceptable based on my answer on pre-marital sex, but some exceptions would apply for very serious relationships/married couples
Pornography (36%): Unacceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable, except for Mormons
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Not a good thing but it is necessary sometimes
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): meh
Gambling (65%): meh
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Unacceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Unacceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Unacceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Acceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): meh
Pornography (36%): Stop watching porn
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable for medical research only
Suicide (18%): Acceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable, don't like it
Cloning humans (14%): Unacceptable, but cloning embryos is okay
Extramarital Affairs (9%): Unacceptable

[bagelman]

...
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Usually unacceptable based on my answer on pre-marital sex, but some exceptions would apply for very serious relationships/married couples
...

Teenage marriage is unacceptable.

[bagelman]

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

So you want to arrest consenting teenagers because they have sex? Nice addition to the War on Drugs.

https://img.memesuper.com/7f6785595fc32a427d8e9c4a3a2c48f8_-the-cell-know-your-meme-over-your-head-meme_582-386.jpeg

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable

So....

[bagelman]

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable. The moral duty is on the gambling establishment to avoid predatory tactics, hustling and the like.
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable!
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Generally Acceptable, context important.
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Undecided
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Acceptable if sustainable hunting of legally huntable animals are involved. Unacceptable for any poached animal.
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Only for valid reasons, generally health related. Fear of a baby being born with a physical disability is not a valid reason.
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Should be discouraged, but not morally unacceptable.
Pornography (36%): Acceptable, especially when the porn is drawn or animated as real people are not involved.
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable for research purposes only
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable, but really more of a health issue
Polygamy (17%): Mostly Unacceptable, especially if supposed religious reasons are involved.
Cloning Humans (14%): Not enough information available.
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable

[Antonio the Sixth]

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

I had sex when I was 16, with another 16 year old when the age of consent was still 18. If you want to feign outrage go ahead. It happens. I don't feel the need to police the sex lives of teenagers.

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

So you want to arrest consenting teenagers because they have sex? Nice addition to the War on Drugs.

https://img.memesuper.com/7f6785595fc32a427d8e9c4a3a2c48f8_-the-cell-know-your-meme-over-your-head-meme_582-386.jpeg

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable

So....

...you really don't get it.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable, and access to it is a right
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): The only legitimate kind of relationship
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Obligatory, due to the lives it saves and lack of real downside
The Death Penalty (58%): Wrong
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Unsure
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Acceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable.
Pornography (36%): Not inherently morally evil, but often quite exploitative, as well as being somewhat unhealthy
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable unless health complications are a factor
Suicide (18%): As SWE said, THIS IS NOT A F**KING MORAL ISSUE
Polygamy (17%): Acceptable
Cloning humans (14%): Acceptable if you can ensure the person being born as a "clone" is not hurt by the procedure, but
Extramarital Affairs (9%): The concept of monogamy by default is a damaging one.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable so long as it doesn't become a habit
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Somewhat acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable. Should apply to rapists as well.
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable but must be regulated
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Usually acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Sometimes acceptable
Abortion (43%): Should be safe, legal, and rare.
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Usually acceptable but it depends. A 13 year old with a 19 year old is obviously not okay.
Pornography (36%): Acceptable, but can be unhealthy if it's a habit.
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable
Suicide (18%): Not a moral issue
Polygamy (17%): Generally Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Only within the grounds of embryological research. We've not yet had a cloned post natal human. Ask me then.
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Acceptable in hindsight if the couple explain their reasons with each other

[bagelman]

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

I had sex when I was 16, with another 16 year old when the age of consent was still 18. If you want to feign outrage go ahead. It happens. I don't feel the need to police the sex lives of teenagers.

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it.

"Cold-Blooded Murder (1%): Acceptable, in that it happens. Deal with it."

So you want to arrest consenting teenagers because they have sex? Nice addition to the War on Drugs.

https://img.memesuper.com/7f6785595fc32a427d8e9c4a3a2c48f8_-the-cell-know-your-meme-over-your-head-meme_582-386.jpeg

Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable

So....

...you really don't get it.

Nobody else does either. You worded your argument very poorly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The point is that "it happens" is a terrible argument for claiming that anything is morally justified, regardless of what particular thing you're trying to justify. Bad things happen. If they didn't, we wouldn't need morality.

[afleitch]

The point is that "it happens" is a terrible argument for claiming that anything is morally justified, regardless of what particular thing you're trying to justify. Bad things happen. If they didn't, we wouldn't need morality.

I don't think consensual sex is a moral issue. Functions of the body including self and mutual pleasure are amoral. Age of consent laws are in place to protect teenagers from adults. If teenagers under the age of consent who are 'physically adult' have sex it's also an amoral issue and not really something I care too much to police. You can only educate.

[DavidB.]

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Undesirable, but acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Undesirable, but acceptable
Gambling (65%): Unacceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): I don't really care if it's marriage but it's best if kids are born to parents who have a stable, lasting relationship; otherwise undesirable but still acceptable.
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Lean unacceptable; really makes me uncomfortable.
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Depends; I support legal euthanasia but only in the case of patients with a terminal illness.
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Unacceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Acceptable but not after a certain number of weeks, unless the mother's life is in danger.
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Undesirable, but acceptable
Pornography (36%): Unacceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Lean acceptable
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable, though yeah, not really helpful to frame this in moral terms.
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Wow, there's some terrible reasoning in this thread, from treating holding moral beliefs as coterminous with wanting to snoop in other people's business to saying that making moral determinations is pointless unless you can enact them into law. Sad!

I'm not going to give my answers because I think the exercise is pointless and (on all but a few of these) needlessly reductive, but I will say that I'm surprised so many people are against cloning animals. Is there something ghastly that I don't know about the process by which it's done, or is it a slippery slope argument, or what?

[Santander]

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Generally acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Depends what this means
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Unacceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Unacceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Sometimes acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Unacceptable, but legalizing it is even more unacceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Sometimes acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Sometimes acceptable
Abortion (43%): Generally unacceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable
Pornography (36%): Acceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Unacceptable
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Generally unacceptable

[Associate Justice PiT]

Wow, there's some terrible reasoning in this thread, from treating holding moral beliefs as coterminous with wanting to snoop in other people's business to saying that making moral determinations is pointless unless you can enact them into law. Sad!

I'm not going to give my answers because I think the exercise is pointless and (on all but a few of these) needlessly reductive, but I will say that I'm surprised so many people are against cloning animals. Is there something ghastly that I don't know about the process by which it's done, or is it a slippery slope argument, or what?

     I've seen that for a long time. There's long been this weird view that if you don't like something then you should advocate to ban it, as if it is impossible for a libertarian to reject libertinism. It doesn't bother me too much since other people don't define me, but it is well offbase.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

What's your problem with out of wedlock marriage? Marriage doesn't automatically make a relationship more stable.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

This is one of those issues where large portions of the left frustrate me. There's such a preoccupation with leveling hierarchies and dismantling the social structures that support those hierarchies that the harm done by leaving no realistic or sustainable replacement that fulfills the same functions is ignored.

I mean let's be clear about this: it's no coincidence that so many sexual abuse scandals occurred in the 1970s and 80s; i.e. after the collapse of various enforced Moral Orders (which had their flaws and faults and trapped many people, but, it must be admitted, protected others) but before certain mostly feminist derived concerns became mainstream.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Some more moral issues:

-Using marijuana
-Drinking alcohol
-Tattoos
-Piercings (apart from female earlobes)
-Cursing
-Transgenderism
-Prostitution
-Casual/meaningless sex (not necessarily the same thing as sex outside marriage)
-Kissing outside of a relationship
-Using hard drugs

(For me, all of them are very immoral, but I suspect I am way too old-school for today's society)

[Santander]

Some more moral issues:

-Using marijuana
-Drinking alcohol
-Tattoos
-Piercings (apart from female earlobes)
-Cursing
-Transgenderism
-Prostitution
-Casual/meaningless sex (not necessarily the same thing as sex outside marriage)
-Kissing outside of a relationship
-Using hard drugs

(For me, all of them are very immoral, but I suspect I am way too old-school for today's society)

Respectfully, I don't think "old-school" is the word you're looking for.

[angus]

-Using marijuana:  lots of good uses for that stuff
-Drinking alcohol:  always takes the edge off of a hard day; I can't remember the last time I passed a day without at least a couple of drinks
-Tattoos:  I don't have any and I'm not thinking of getting any
-Piercings (apart from female earlobes):  I don't have any but I've known two women who had metal tongue studs.  Wow!  I'm feeling a tightening in the loins just thinking about it
-Cursing:  Good way to get someone's attention; should not be over-used
-Transgenderism:  it happens sometimes; try not to be too awkward about it
-Prostitution:  aren't we all, on some level?
-Casual/meaningless sex (not necessarily the same thing as sex outside marriage):  best thing there is when you're young and single
-Kissing outside of a relationship:  not as good as sliced bread, but good if it leads to casual/meaningless sex
-Using hard drugs:  they can be addictive and expensive; best not to get too carried away with it


You are old school, man, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.