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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2017, 01:04:02 PM »

Fearless Leader X, 2016 was not a republican wave, as Republicans lost the Senate races in NH, NV, CO, lost NV, VA, CO, NH at the presidential level, lost NC-GOV, and lost a net six house seats.

Wow, I agree with Wulfric. 2016 was definitely not a Republican wave, especially not in Arizona.

I agree though that Kirkpatrick should run for statewide office. Just not McSally's seat. Unless literally no one else is running.
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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2017, 01:59:05 PM »

It was a joke lol
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2017, 02:12:51 PM »

Fearless Leader X, 2016 was not a republican wave, as Republicans lost the Senate races in NH, NV, CO, lost NV, VA, CO, NH at the presidential level, lost NC-GOV, and lost a net six house seats.
It's fair to call it a Republican wave in some places. Also, there's always going to be some "anti-bellwethers" in some places. VA is too pro-deep state, pro-swamp, and pro-big government for Trump to have won it, and Nevada and New Hampshire were too pro-choice for Trump to win.
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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2017, 02:24:14 PM »

Fearless Leader X, 2016 was not a republican wave, as Republicans lost the Senate races in NH, NV, CO, lost NV, VA, CO, NH at the presidential level, lost NC-GOV, and lost a net six house seats.

Wow, I agree with Wulfric. 2016 was definitely not a Republican wave, especially not in Arizona.

I agree though that Kirkpatrick should run for statewide office. Just not McSally's seat. Unless literally no one else is running.

2016 was absolutely a Republican wave.
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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2017, 02:26:25 PM »

Fearless Leader X, 2016 was not a republican wave, as Republicans lost the Senate races in NH, NV, CO, lost NV, VA, CO, NH at the presidential level, lost NC-GOV, and lost a net six house seats.

Wow, I agree with Wulfric. 2016 was definitely not a Republican wave, especially not in Arizona.

I agree though that Kirkpatrick should run for statewide office. Just not McSally's seat. Unless literally no one else is running.

2016 was absolutely a Republican wave.

Not in Arizona.
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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2017, 02:28:20 PM »

Fearless Leader X, 2016 was not a republican wave, as Republicans lost the Senate races in NH, NV, CO, lost NV, VA, CO, NH at the presidential level, lost NC-GOV, and lost a net six house seats.

Wow, I agree with Wulfric. 2016 was definitely not a Republican wave, especially not in Arizona.

I agree though that Kirkpatrick should run for statewide office. Just not McSally's seat. Unless literally no one else is running.

2016 was absolutely a Republican wave.

Republicans won the House vote by 1.1%, and lost the Presidential vote by 2.1%. That's a wash, not a wave (they also lost the Senate vote by a lot but that's not a representative sample).
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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2017, 02:37:17 PM »

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2017, 02:38:13 PM »

Fearless Leader X, 2016 was not a republican wave, as Republicans lost the Senate races in NH, NV, CO, lost NV, VA, CO, NH at the presidential level, lost NC-GOV, and lost a net six house seats.

Wow, I agree with Wulfric. 2016 was definitely not a Republican wave, especially not in Arizona.

I agree though that Kirkpatrick should run for statewide office. Just not McSally's seat. Unless literally no one else is running.

2016 was absolutely a Republican wave.

Republicans won the House vote by 1.1%, and lost the Presidential vote by 2.1%. That's a wash, not a wave (they also lost the Senate vote by a lot but that's not a representative sample).

Depends on how you count the Senate votes out of California.
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2017, 04:11:46 PM »

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...

Republicans were already almost maxed out, especially in the house.
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« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2017, 04:16:53 PM »

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...

Republicans were already almost maxed out, especially in the house.

Losing seats never qualifies as a wave. Period.
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2017, 04:21:22 PM »

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...

Republicans were already almost maxed out, especially in the house.

Losing seats never qualifies as a wave. Period.

In the House, I agree (with the possible exception of years ending in 2). In the Senate, this isn't necessarily true, especially with current polarization.
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« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2017, 04:57:41 PM »

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...

Republicans were already almost maxed out, especially in the house.

Losing seats never qualifies as a wave. Period.

You're wrong.  Period.
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« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2017, 07:22:57 PM »

lol what sort of moron could possibly think 2016 was a wave?
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« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2017, 07:40:59 PM »

lol what sort of moron could possibly think 2016 was a wave?

This one:

It's really in the same camp as the whole "Trump is the only R who was capable of beating Hillary" crap - lies people tell themselves to feel better about what happened in 2016.
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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2017, 08:06:41 PM »

lol what sort of moron could possibly think 2016 was a wave?

This one:

It's really in the same camp as the whole "Trump is the only R who was capable of beating Hillary" crap - lies people tell themselves to feel better about what happened in 2016.

You mean like the one where you pretend people care who you "endorse?"  Also I'm pretty sure no one thinks Trump was the only Republican who could beat Hillary in 2016, but whatever.
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« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2017, 08:09:32 PM »

2016 was a good Republican year. Not a wave.
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« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2017, 08:53:38 PM »

lol what sort of moron could possibly think 2016 was a wave?

This one:

It's really in the same camp as the whole "Trump is the only R who was capable of beating Hillary" crap - lies people tell themselves to feel better about what happened in 2016.

You mean like the one where you pretend people care who you "endorse?"  Also I'm pretty sure no one thinks Trump was the only Republican who could beat Hillary in 2016, but whatever.

A bunch of people on Atlas have said it.
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« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2017, 07:53:45 AM »

Having a net loss of seats is definitely not a wave.

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...

Republicans were already almost maxed out, especially in the house.

Losing seats never qualifies as a wave. Period.

You're wrong.  Period.

This entire thread is on its period. Period.
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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2017, 09:45:03 AM »

Having a net loss of seats is definitely not a wave.

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...

Republicans were already almost maxed out, especially in the house.

Losing seats never qualifies as a wave. Period.

You're wrong.  Period.

This entire thread is on its period. Period.

Periods are so extreme.  How about some semicolons?
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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2017, 10:06:14 AM »

Having a net loss of seats is definitely not a wave.

Democrats actually did gain seats in the House and Senate in 2016, so it was in no way a wave...

Republicans were already almost maxed out, especially in the house.

Losing seats never qualifies as a wave. Period.

You're wrong.  Period.

This entire thread is on its period. Period.

Periods are so extreme.  How about some semicolons?

No, they are Independents.
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