UK 2011: Lib Dems exit coalition, throw support behind Labour over tuition fees
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Don Vito Corleone
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« on: May 14, 2017, 06:22:15 PM »
« edited: May 15, 2017, 11:39:58 AM by bruhgmger2 »

What if Nick Clegg ended the coalition over the tuition fees issue and threw his support behind Labour(leaving the Lib+Lab government with 315 seats)? Where would they get the other 11 votes from in a confidence vote? How long would the government last? Would this even be possible or would Cameron just call an election immediately rather then let Miliband into Number 10? When an election does happen sooner or later, how would it turn out? 
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 07:35:37 PM »
« Edited: May 14, 2017, 07:39:51 PM by Kingpoleon »

Cameron would have to push them really hard on tuition fees after an initial no.

Perhaps devolution on Wales and Scotland would get them enough votes. SDLP, Green, Alliance, SNP, and PC would give fifteen votes. Sinn Fein may be convinced to supply confidence. Altogether, that would add up to 324 votes, fourteen of which are from nationalist/regionalist parties.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 10:14:23 PM »

After weeks of failed reconciliation talks, Cameron resigns & the Tories elect someone like Redwood. Miliband attempts coalition talks but soon follows him & resigns too; Labour elect someone like McDonnell. W/ the prospect of a hyper-Thatcherite or Marxist, the British people see Saint Nick of Hallam for what he is: the true messiah, the one who would form a majority Lib Dem gov't., & grant him a 50 seat majority.

Jk lol... nah, if the Lib Dems walk out, then (w/ the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 not having yet been passed into law) the Tories call a general election &, being the only party with money (Labour didn't have the funds to run an election campaign & the same was true of the Lib Dems; the Tories, on the other hand, could make serious gains against 2 vulnerable & ideologically bankrupt parties), they win a majority & are the ruling party 'til 2016.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2017, 11:19:17 AM »

Sinn Fein may be convinced to supply confidence.

why on earth would sinn fein break their 100 year old tradition of refusing to enter parliament (the swearing an oath to the queen thing) in order to vote in favour of a Conservative government?
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2017, 11:41:42 AM »
« Edited: May 15, 2017, 03:47:41 PM by bruhgmger2 »

Sinn Fein may be convinced to supply confidence.

why on earth would sinn fein break their 100 year old tradition of refusing to enter parliament (the swearing an oath to the queen thing) in order to vote in favour of a Conservative government?

I think what he means to say is since the Sinn Fein MP's would not take their seats, 324 would be enough for the government to survive in the event of a confidence vote.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 01:55:58 PM »

Sinn Fein may be convinced to supply confidence.

why on earth would sinn fein break their 100 year old tradition of refusing to enter parliament (the swearing an oath to the queen thing) in order to vote in favour of a Conservative government?

I think what he means  to say is since the Sinn Fein MP's would not take their seats, 324 would be enough for the government to survive in the event of a confidence vote.

Indeed. Effectively, they would just need to be convinced to not enter Parliament.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 02:05:52 PM »

Sinn Fein may be convinced to supply confidence.

why on earth would sinn fein break their 100 year old tradition of refusing to enter parliament (the swearing an oath to the queen thing) in order to vote in favour of a Conservative government?

I think what he means  to say is since the Sinn Fein MP's would not take their seats, 324 would be enough for the government to survive in the event of a confidence vote.

Indeed. Effectively, they would just need to be convinced to not enter Parliament.

but they don't anyway?
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