Trump revealed classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador

[Beet]

I mean, the leftists here do like to throw out insults and act intemperately, but then so do some rightists (like ghostmonkey and Bannon's Brigade). As I've said many times, I'd like to see more engagement and debate, rather than opinion stating, snark, and empty quoting.

On the board where I mod, I tried for a few weeks to raise the level of debate, but the forum just wasn't having it.

[Technocracy Timmy]

This board has a huge bubble issue. The 5 right-leaning posters who post here are never even responded to honestly. It's gifs, personal attacks, insults, and ad-homs which we get in reply.

Tired of it. I try to be nice but this board is eaten up with its hatred for all things republican.

It's quickly resembling the pre-election days when anyone who questioned hillary's lead or her position was mocked into oblivion.

This is a basic fact: there is not one red ava on here that even for a minute has the urge to seek out counter arguments.

[TheSaint250]

This board has a huge bubble issue. The 5 right-leaning posters who post here are never even responded to honestly. It's gifs, personal attacks, insults, and ad-homs which we get in reply.

Tired of it. I try to be nice but this board is eaten up with its hatred for all things republican.

It's quickly resembling the pre-election days when anyone who questioned hillary's lead or her position was mocked into oblivion.

This is a basic fact: there is not one red ava on here that even for a minute has the urge to seek out counter arguments.

I'm getting sick of being called a Russiabot, unpatriotic, and a fascist.

If you are sick of it, then you should reconsider your choices.  Treat Trump with the same scrutiny you would Hillary.  Only then will you realize your error.

I do.  And every day, seeing what occurs helps me be much less hypocritical if a Democrat were to do the same things.

[Thomas Jackson]

This board has a huge bubble issue. The 5 right-leaning posters who post here are never even responded to honestly. It's gifs, personal attacks, insults, and ad-homs which we get in reply.

Tired of it. I try to be nice but this board is eaten up with its hatred for all things republican.

It's quickly resembling the pre-election days when anyone who questioned hillary's lead or her position was mocked into oblivion.

This is a basic fact: there is not one red ava on here that even for a minute has the urge to seek out counter arguments.

I'm getting sick of being called a Russiabot, unpatriotic, and a fascist.

it's so bad that it's to the point where anyone who doesn't tow the democrat line is an unpatriotic, russia fellow traveler.

And they act like this goes beyond politics......yea right!

This board is further left than DailyKos. The majority of the red avatars here can't stand to hear opposing viewpoints.

[TheSaint250]

This board has a huge bubble issue. The 5 right-leaning posters who post here are never even responded to honestly. It's gifs, personal attacks, insults, and ad-homs which we get in reply.

Tired of it. I try to be nice but this board is eaten up with its hatred for all things republican.

It's quickly resembling the pre-election days when anyone who questioned hillary's lead or her position was mocked into oblivion.

This is a basic fact: there is not one red ava on here that even for a minute has the urge to seek out counter arguments.

I'm getting sick of being called a Russiabot, unpatriotic, and a fascist.

it's so bad that it's to the point where anyone who doesn't tow the democrat line is an unpatriotic, russia fellow traveler.

And they act like this goes beyond politics......yea right!

This board is further left than DailyKos. The majority of the red avatars here can't stand to hear opposing viewpoints.

The ironic thing is that I read DailyKos every day (tbh, it's only their morning digest section, but it's still full of leftist arguments)

[Inmate Trump]

Why is it that every single new thing that comes up about Trump and/or his administration is immediately dismissed by his supporters?  Is it just them trying to save face, or are they legitimately deranged?

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

[ApatheticAustrian]

omfg....hugh hewitt is seriously worried.

i was afraid he has gone full limbaugh (*TRUMP IS JUST MASTER TROLLING!") at this point.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Why is it that every single new thing that comes up about Trump and/or his administration is immediately dismissed by his supporters?  Is it just them trying to save face, or are they legitimately deranged?

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

It's cult like behavior.

[Matty]

All 3 of the people in the room with trump have denied he shared confidential info: tillerson, powell, and mcmaster.

Why should they NOT be trusted, but anti-trump leakers are automatically trusted?

What PROOF do we have?

[Green Line]

Country before Party.  John McCain said it best back in 2008.  That Republican Party is long gone, apparently.  We will resist.

[TheSaint250]

Why is it that every single new thing that comes up about Trump and/or his administration is immediately dismissed by his supporters?  Is it just them trying to save face, or are they legitimately deranged?

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

1. Again, it's about seeing concrete evidence that collusion occurred.

2. You're right. I probably would have criticized her.  That's why what is happening now is prompting me to do more research to see what occurred and if it really was illegal or impeachable.  This way, I can avoid hypocrisy down the road.

[Yank2133]

Why is it that every single new thing that comes up about Trump and/or his administration is immediately dismissed by his supporters?  Is it just them trying to save face, or are they legitimately deranged?

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

It is about saving face.

No one wants to admit that they were conned or an empty, partisan hack.

[Ebsy]

Anyone supporting Trump on this is a traitor.

"if you're not with us, you are against us"

shut up, ebsy. You embarrassed yourself enough last year.

I'm quavering in my boots now. Just waiting for those Selzer poll numbers to come in!

[Technocracy Timmy]

All 3 of the people in the room with trump have denied he shared confidential info: tillerson, powell, and mcmaster.

Why should they NOT be trusted, but anti-trump leakers are automatically trusted?

What PROOF do we have?

The media sources who leaked this story and whose very job it is to keep a check on those in power.

[Matty]

Why is it that every single new thing that comes up about Trump and/or his administration is immediately dismissed by his supporters?  Is it just them trying to save face, or are they legitimately deranged?

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

if you truly think this board would be as outraged over russia colluding to help hillary win and all other russia stuff being connected to her, then you are crazy.

[I Won - Get Over It]

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

What allies are engaged in this thing (ISIS)? Besides Turkey and Saudi Arabia?
It is not like we are talking about Australia och UK here.

[TheSaint250]

Country before Party.  John McCain said it best back in 2008.  That Republican Party is long gone, apparently.  We will resist.

It's always been country over party.  It's also facts over quick reactions.

[Devout Centrist]

All 3 of the people in the room with trump have denied he shared confidential info: tillerson, powell, and mcmaster.

Why should they NOT be trusted, but anti-trump leakers are automatically trusted?

What PROOF do we have?

My wife and the man in the room with her denied it! What proof do we have?!

[Devout Centrist]

CNN is saying it was a close "Middle East ally" who warned if this happened again, they would stop sharing intel.

All signs point to Israel.

[Matty]

CNN is saying it was a close "Middle East ally" who warned if this happened again, they would stop sharing intel.

All signs point to Israel.

trump's approval rating goes up among alt-rightists!

I kid, I kid.

[The Other Castro]

CNN is saying it was a close "Middle East ally" who warned if this happened again, they would stop sharing intel.

All signs point to Israel.

Or potentially Jordan.

[yankeesfan]

All 3 of the people in the room with trump have denied he shared confidential info: tillerson, powell, and mcmaster.

Why should they NOT be trusted, but anti-trump leakers are automatically trusted?

What PROOF do we have?

1. There was more than 3 people in the room with Trump,
2.  They have NOT denied that he shared confidential info.

It's very frustrating dealing with apologists that ignore the facts.

[Devout Centrist]

CNN is saying it was a close "Middle East ally" who warned if this happened again, they would stop sharing intel.

All signs point to Israel.

trump's approval rating goes up among alt-rightists!

I kid, I kid.

Well I mean, that's pretty much what would happen.

[Thomas Jackson]

Why is it that every single new thing that comes up about Trump and/or his administration is immediately dismissed by his supporters?  Is it just them trying to save face, or are they legitimately deranged?

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

if you truly think this board would be as outraged over russia colluding to help hillary win and all other russia stuff being connected to her, then you are crazy.

QFT.

[Beet]

Why is it that every single new thing that comes up about Trump and/or his administration is immediately dismissed by his supporters?  Is it just them trying to save face, or are they legitimately deranged?

If Hillary had won, and then all of these revelations started coming out of possible Russian collusion and her giving classified info (reportedly more info than even our allies have on the matter), then she would lose my support.  At some point, something has got to give with these people.

if you truly think this board would be as outraged over russia colluding to help hillary win and all other russia stuff being connected to her, then you are crazy.

Uh yes, liberals would never criticize Clinton. Have you heard of a poster called jfern? Also, here is my initial reaction to the OIG report:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=237431.msg5084488#msg5084488