local DC news reporting Seth Rich was in contact with wikileaks, family confirms

[Matty]

I have no idea if this report is true or not, but this isn't some fringe site, it's the local fox afilliate in Washington DC.
Story broke 15 mins ago.

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http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/254852337-story

Is his family using his death to shamefully push a conspiracy theory or do they truly think there is meat on this bone?

It worries me that only a local news site is reporting this, but you know this will be run with in today's world.

[Hindsight was 2020]

That's some serious deflecting

[Matty]

That's some serious deflecting

what? You are responding to a topic by referencing something else. That is the definition of deflecting.

[Hindsight was 2020]

He was probably murdered by the same guy that shot Vince Foster.

The monster

[AtorBoltox]

'this isn't some fringe site'
'local fox affiliate'
okey dokey

[JerryArkansas]

Let's just remember this is not the first time this affiliate has run conspiracy theories as fact.  So yeah.

And when a reporter from Free Beacon is calling something bullsh**t, like this "story", it likely is just that.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Oh my goodness. The DNC must have put out an order to have Seth Rich executed.

This is some groundbreaking reporting. Thank you so much for informing us on it.

[AtorBoltox]

Let's just remember this is not the first time this affiliate has run conspiracy theories as fact.  So yeah.

Is this the same one that ran stories about pizzagate?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Is marty desperate to deflect from Trump's lastest fumble?

My sources¹ say yes!





¹Sources may or may not include a Magic 8-ball, tea leaves, an Ouija board, and/or Fox News viewers. But they are only the best sources. You can believe me!

[JerryArkansas]

Let's just remember this is not the first time this affiliate has run conspiracy theories as fact.  So yeah.

Is this the same one that ran stories about pizzagate?

I think so, I do know that they have run a story like this once before on this very topic, bringing in a nutjob as their only source.

[ProudModerate2]

He was probably murdered by the same guy that shot Vince Foster.

He was probably murdered by the same deranged guy who said that "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."
Now who was this clown ? I cant remember.
Certainty the American people would never elect such a psychotic creep to be our president.

[Beet]

Unlike others, I have no double standard here. I find this story interesting.

Evidence
1. Rich was a high level Democratic staffer, in charge of voter access.
2. He fits the demographic profile of a leaker (all the leakers so far have been white men, or in one case, a trans white woman).
3. The night he was killed, he was at a bar that he frequented very regularly, and stayed until 1:30 am.
4. He made calls to his father, a friend, and spoke with his girlfriend for hours.
5. He spent 3 hours walking home when it should have taken 40 minutes, talking to his girlfriend.
6. He was shot 300 feet from his door. As if someone was waiting for him.
7. He was shot in the back. Why would robbers do that?
8. He didn't realize he was shot. Why would he not realize if he was shot in the back?
9. Nothing was taken.
10. Last year, Julian Assange hinted he may have been a source a couple of times.
11. In April, Guccifer 2.0 suggested he was a source.

Needless to say, I would be very surprised if someone at the DNC put a hit on him and coordinated with mayor Bowser to suppress the police investigation. But the story is bizarre.

Countering the conspiracy theory is that Rich was supposed alive and talking for more than an hour afterward. Would he not have connected his contact with wikileaks (if shown) to being shot? Would he not have mentioned it? That would be one hell of a coverup.  

Also, if Rich was the source, where did the two Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear source codes come from, on the DNC servers? Could they have been planted there, and the logs backdated after the fact, to fool cybersecurity investigators?

And what about the Podesta e-mails? Those were clearly cases of phishing. So even if Rich was involved as a "mole", it does not mean the Russians were not involved.

[Crumpets]

I don't see - even if he were connected to WikiLeaks - what possible motivation someone would have for killing him as a result. Why the heck would the DNC risk being associated with murder just because he had been talking to Assange? Why not just fire him or confiscate his computer?

[EnglishPete]

Unlike others, I have no double standard here. I find this story interesting.

Evidence
1. Rich was a high level Democratic staffer, in charge of voter access.
2. He fits the demographic profile of a leaker (all the leakers so far have been white men, or in one case, a trans white woman).
3. The night he was killed, he was at a bar that he frequented very regularly, and stayed until 1:30 am.
4. He made calls to his father, a friend, and spoke with his girlfriend for hours.
5. He spent 3 hours walking home when it should have taken 40 minutes, talking to his girlfriend.
6. He was shot 300 feet from his door. As if someone was waiting for him.
7. He was shot in the back. Why would robbers do that?
8. He didn't realize he was shot. Why would he not realize if he was shot in the back?
9. Nothing was taken.
10. Last year, Julian Assange hinted he may have been a source a couple of times.
11. In April, Guccifer 2.0 suggested he was a source.

Needless to say, I would be very surprised if someone at the DNC put a hit on him and coordinated with mayor Bowser to suppress the police investigation. But the story is bizarre.

Countering the conspiracy theory is that Rich was supposed alive and talking for more than an hour afterward. Would he not have connected his contact with wikileaks (if shown) to being shot? Would he not have mentioned it? That would be one hell of a coverup.  

Also, if Rich was the source, where did the two Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear source codes come from, on the DNC servers? Could they have been planted there, and the logs backdated after the fact, to fool cybersecurity investigators?

And what about the Podesta e-mails? Those were clearly cases of phishing. So even if Rich was involved as a "mole", it does not mean the Russians were not involved.

There was no need to 'plant' source codes. There is no evidence that " fancy bear and cozy bear" even exist other than the testimony of the 'Crowdstrike' company hired by the DNC. The DNC asked the FBI not to look at the servers and the FBI simply accepted Crowdstrike's account. The dubious nature of Crowdstrike and their work has been discussed elsewhere.

It looks like the whole Russia conspiracy theory was dreamed up by people in the DNC and Crowd strike was hired to back up this theory.

[TheSaint250]

I love how many Dems are calling this story a deflection. So I guess any groundbreaking non-pro-liberal news is a deflection?

Thank you Beet for not being a hypocrite.

[Classic Conservative]

LIBERALS ARE MURDERERS!

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

LIBERALS ARE MURDERERS!

wait, you like liberals now?

[kyc0705]

I love how many Dems are calling this story a deflection. So I guess any groundbreaking non-pro-liberal news is a deflection?

Thank you Beet for not being a hypocrite.

Yeah, it's hard to deny that there are some—at the very least—interesting and odd aspects to this case, regardless of how un-conspiratorial the actual events of this case probably are. Calling it a distraction or a case of deflection is just nonsensical.

[TheSaint250]

If true, this could go towards disproving Trump-Russia collusion.  Obviously, further investigations into both the murder and possible collusion are still needed to find the truth.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

ftr the mr rod wheeler sourced in this story is the same guy from this:

[Badger]

ftr the mr rod wheeler sourced in this story is the same guy from this:

Really says it all, doesn't it?

[Gass3268]

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[AtorBoltox]

Can these conspiracy ghouls now just leave this grieving family alone?

[Torie]

Well this thread is a real piece of work. But then for this board, perhaps it is not all that surprising.

[yankeesfan]

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utterly deplorable