WaPo: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians

[publicunofficial]

At what point does the top brass start withholding all classified info from Trump because he absolutely cannot be trusted with it?

[Technocracy Timmy]

Trump will give a speech on Islam in Saudi Arabia, @AFP is reporting
https://twitter.com/sarahussein/status/864512116161744900

Oh Jesus please God no.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Trump will give a speech on Islam in Saudi Arabia, @AFP is reporting
https://twitter.com/sarahussein/status/864512116161744900

Oh Jesus please God no.

"What could possibly go wrong?"

[Confused Democrat]

Trump will give a speech on Islam in Saudi Arabia, @AFP is reporting
https://twitter.com/sarahussein/status/864512116161744900

Oh Jesus please God no.

"What could possibly go wrong?"

Well it depends on two things:

1) Who writes the speech.

2) If Trump go off script.

If its written by Bannon and Trump goes off script, it'll be a disaster. If its written by Kushner and Trump doesn't go off script, it'll still be bad but it probably won't jeopardize foreign relations like the first scenario.  

Either way, Trump is still going to look like an idiot.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Horrible if true. But as far as I understand, it would be not illegal since the president as commander-in-chief is permitted to declassify secret information. Even if it’s politically very unprofessional and stupid. But I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Drumpf has proven several times that he has no competence and is in no ways up to the job.

It may be legal, but as Brittain33 noted, it certainly is potentially impeachable. I am not saying this incident deserves impeachment, but suppose, to posit an extreme hypothetical, Trump gave to N. Korea the US nuclear codes or something?  He'd be out the door in a hurry.

     This is a good point. The gravity of this particular situation is troubling though it doesn't really merit impeachment (the specifics of the case must be taken into account when deciding how to proceed), but it is conceivable that a similar situation that would merit impeachment would arise.

     As an aside, I wonder if a tech executive would be better with these kinds of things. That person would have trade secrets to protect, whereas a real estate mogul like Trump really has nothing of the sort.

[ApatheticAustrian]

https://twitter.com/BradThor/status/864529518660386816

[The Other Castro]

Breaking: The ally was Israel, according to the NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1

[Confused Democrat]

Breaking: The ally was Israel, according to the NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1

Trump is a moron

Why did WaPo decide not to disclose this, but NYT and NBC decided it was okay.

[Middle-aged Europe]

If its written by Bannon and Trump goes off script, it'll be a disaster.

Question is whether Trump will make it out of the country alive, if that happens.

[Matty]

how can someone be outraged at social conservatism in America but freak out about what trump says about islam in a speech in truly barbarous nations?

It's moral inconsistency. Why does muhammad in saudi arabia not deserve scorn for keeping his wife like a slave and wrapped up like a burrito, but john smith in ohio deserves hate for opposing certain parts of feminism?

[The Other Castro]

The White House is a black hole for once-respected officials. McMaster can never come back from this now. His reputation is shot.

[Gass3268]

how can someone be outraged at social conservatism in America but freak out about what trump says about islam in a speech in truly barbarous nations?

It's moral inconsistency. Why does muhammad in saudi arabia not deserve scorn for keeping his wife like a slave and wrapped up like a burrito, but john smith in ohio deserves hate for opposing certain parts of feminism?

Holy Non Sequitur Batman!

[Matty]

how can someone be outraged at social conservatism in America but freak out about what trump says about islam in a speech in truly barbarous nations?

It's moral inconsistency. Why does muhammad in saudi arabia not deserve scorn for keeping his wife like a slave and wrapped up like a burrito, but john smith in ohio deserves hate for opposing certain parts of feminism?

Holy Non Sequitur Batman!

How is it a non-sequiter? How can someone who respects LGBT rights, women rights, and rights of other marginalized people, not be upset if we go to these places and kiss the feet of a religion that in its current form is undoubtedly a problem.

[Gass3268]

how can someone be outraged at social conservatism in America but freak out about what trump says about islam in a speech in truly barbarous nations?

It's moral inconsistency. Why does muhammad in saudi arabia not deserve scorn for keeping his wife like a slave and wrapped up like a burrito, but john smith in ohio deserves hate for opposing certain parts of feminism?

Holy Non Sequitur Batman!

How is it a non-sequiter? How can someone who respects LGBT rights, women rights, and rights of other marginalized people, not be upset if we go to these places and kiss the feet of a religion that in its current form is undoubtedly a problem.

What does that have to do with Trump revealing classified Israeli intelligence to Russia?

[ProudModerate2]

how can someone be outraged at social conservatism in America but freak out about what trump says about islam in a speech in truly barbarous nations?

It's moral inconsistency. Why does muhammad in saudi arabia not deserve scorn for keeping his wife like a slave and wrapped up like a burrito, but john smith in ohio deserves hate for opposing certain parts of feminism?

Holy Non Sequitur Batman!

How is it a non-sequiter? How can someone who respects LGBT rights, women rights, and rights of other marginalized people, not be upset if we go to these places and kiss the feet of a religion that in its current form is undoubtedly a problem.

marty,
Stop trying to de-rail this thread.
Stay on topic please.
If you wish to discuss "rights," please start a new thread with that topic.
Thank you !

[ApatheticAustrian]

could we plz not fill this second thread with distractions too?

white house is arguing that briefers do not inform POTUS about sensitivity of the material.
https://twitter.com/kampeas/status/864545658577059842

Senate Dems demanding "full transcripts" of his meeting with Russian officials
https://twitter.com/BresPolitico/status/864547063136169987

[The Other Castro]

NBC confirms that it was Israel, according to three sources.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Spicer: The leaks to press are "frankly dangerous"
https://www.axios.com/spicer-the-leaks-to-press-are-frankly-dangerous-2410241647.html


Marco Rubio on White House issues: "Certainly it’s less than ideal, but it is what it is."
https://twitter.com/CillizzaCNN/status/864545977583226884


"We have a shared interest in Syria" - White House press briefing just now re: Russia, who is arming/funding atrocities against civilians
https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/864549638828945409

[Crumpets]

NBC confirms that it was Israel, according to three sources.

I haven't been online in a while. What was Israel, with regard to this story?

[Associate Justice PiT]

how can someone be outraged at social conservatism in America but freak out about what trump says about islam in a speech in truly barbarous nations?

It's moral inconsistency. Why does muhammad in saudi arabia not deserve scorn for keeping his wife like a slave and wrapped up like a burrito, but john smith in ohio deserves hate for opposing certain parts of feminism?

     This topic is about the Washington Post article reporting the President revealing classified information to Russia. This topic is not about comments that the President makes in regards to Islam. Please stay on topic.

[ApatheticAustrian]

NBC confirms that it was Israel, according to three sources.

I haven't been online in a while. What was Israel, with regard to this story?

the nation whose intel trump has given away.





https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/864539301270499328

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[ProudModerate2]

NBC confirms that it was Israel, according to three sources.

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I don't understand how Atlas members can say that this "incident" does not hurt our national security.
If other nations refuse to share any future intelligence information with us (because of the actions of the orange-haired clown), then this can have serious deadly consequences for many American soldiers, operatives and civilians in coming years.
Am I wrong ?

[ApatheticAustrian]

https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/864554012976304129

[afleitch]

BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS

[KingSweden]

NBC confirms that it was Israel, according to three sources.

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I don't understand how Atlas members can say that this "incident" does not hurt our national security.
If other nations refuse to share any future intelligence information with us (because of the actions of the orange-haired clown), then this can have serious deadly consequences for many American soldiers, operatives and civilians in coming years.
Am I wrong ?

This this this. Forget the I-word - this is not impeachable. It is a grave danger to our natsec, though, in terms of international trust