PPP-National: Trump getting Blanched

[NHI]

Dear lord these #s are terrible!

[Illini Moderate]

The fact that people would even consider Trump or The Rock is just plain sad. STOP NOMINATING PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING

[Technocracy Timmy]

Ted Cruz is more like Ted Kennedy. Kennedy attacked Carter for being too conservative and Cruz would attack Trump for being too liberal.

Plus Ted Cruz learned last year that the establishment GOP hates him just as much as Trump. He knows that. He also stood up to the GOP establishment during the 2013 government shutdown so he isn't afraid of them. I think he's most likely to challenge Trump.

Maybe Kasich is the Anderson figure?

[Santander]

Don't know what is more embarassing: That PPP is still making bogus polls or that anybody is still believing it.

PPP is not a serious polling institute, it's a Dem Cheerleader. Just look at their Twitter feed, it's like a child is runnig it.

---> Garbage.

PPP is a quality pollster and is aligned with the Democrats. They aren't mutually exclusive.

I don't take the poll seriously either, but that's because I disagree with the topic.

[Pollster]

Interesting that Jill Stein voters are more or less evenly split on who they would prefer as President today between Clinton and Trump. Other key takeaways from these numbers:

-For the question "Who would you rather was President: Mike Pence or Donald Trump?" Trump leads Pence by only 3 points (36-33). This could indicate growing public support for impeachment.

-A comfortable majority (55%) think Trump is dishonest, while only a slight majority (51%) think he is a liar. At least to me this seems like a distinction without a difference, but it was enough to sway 4% of the respondents.

-14% of registered voters seem to support or at least not mind the Press Secretary actively lying to the country.

-61-28 support for a law requiring tax returns to be released in order to appear on the ballot. Virtually the same number (62-29) want Trump tax returns released. This could very well be a coincidence (or an expression of the mean bias of the sample) but the same 62-28 margin is present for the independent investigation/special prosecutor topic as well.

-Slightly more than a third of voters (34%) would want Trump to remain in office even if conclusive evidence of collusion is found. Roughly the same (33%) think the Russia story is fake news.

-Ryan and McConnell have the same favorability gap (-34).

-Elizabeth Warren winning men (if only by the slimmest of margins) should send shockwaves through the Republican party.

[UncleSam]

PPP has released some pretty terrible 'polls' in the past but the numbers in this one are so bad that to dismiss it would be inaccurate. Trump would not win an election held tomorrow most likely, though he would've won a week ago. Goes to show how important timing is in politics tbh, Clinton was right that if the election had been on October 29th she'd have won (though by a disappointing amount).

[catographer]

Also...

Who would you rather have as president right now?

Hillary Clinton 49%
Donald Trump 41%

Barack Obama 55%
Donald Trump 39%

Wow.

[RINO Tom]

It'd obviously depend on the candidate, but I wonder how badly Trump would have to lose to have a Democrat win a Southern state that's not VA/NC/FL/TX/GA (i.e., the ones usually talked about).  Probably a VERY bad loss.

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Ugh, the Democratic establishment will probably decide that this proves that they can nominate some terrible neoliberal and tell progressives to f**k off.

[I Won - Get Over It]

42% Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
37% Donald Trump (R, inc.)

[Holmes]

I think the 5 Stein voters they polled skewed more right than Stein voters as a whole.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Ugh, the Democratic establishment will probably decide that this proves that they can nominate some terrible neoliberal and tell progressives to f**k off.

How many times a day do you use that word?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I think the 5 Stein voters they polled skewed more right than Stein voters as a whole.

Highly doubt it. Most on the real left know that Trump is superior to Hillary

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Trump will be the Bruce Rauner of 2020.  He was lucky enough to beat a scandaled Democrat. Dems will win the House in 2018 and Govs and Prez and Senate in 2020. 

If Dems are lucky, they can beat Flake and Cruz and win the Senate, but Dems will definately win.

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Ugh, the Democratic establishment will probably decide that this proves that they can nominate some terrible neoliberal and tell progressives to f**k off.

How many times a day do you use that word?

Yeah, I don't see the point in using the word neoliberal anymore - it's basically just become a cliché at this point. Just use "liberal" and be done with it, IMO.

Those are 2 very different words.

[dirks]

sh**t. What are we gonna do with the election coming up this week!??

Means nothing. And we've seen how accurate these "polls" are. After 2016 you guys need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

[MasterJedi]

Ugh, the Democratic establishment will probably decide that this proves that they can nominate some terrible neoliberal and tell progressives to f**k off.

They would still have to win the primary election. For all the Bernibros complaints he still lost the election bigly. The black/Hispanic voters didn't like the rich white man telling them pie in the sky promises, they've seen it before and went for the pragmatic option. Without winning over that group they won't win with flakey kids.

[Ridge]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say PPP is the Democrats' version of Rasmussen. What are the sample sizes? Also, what if someone runs as an Independent? Like Cornel West? Who's to say Maxine Waters doesn't run for the Democratic nom, and win?

I have so many questions.

[Vosem]

PPP isn't necessarily the best pollster (though calling them fake news is kinda pushing it), but it's pretty clear that these results fit the general pattern of what's been going on.

[Ridge]

PPP isn't necessarily the best pollster (though calling them fake news is kinda pushing it), but it's pretty clear that these results fit the general pattern of what's been going on.

True, but the President's numbers at Johnson are worse than his ratings.

[heatcharger]

PPP isn't necessarily the best pollster (though calling them fake news is kinda pushing it), but it's pretty clear that these results fit the general pattern of what's been going on.

Yeah, if they asked the head-to-head matchups right after the approval question, it'd have more credibility, but it's not like they are particularly surprising considering his job approval numbers.

[Fuzzy Bear]

It's a LONG way to 2020.

[dirks]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say PPP is the Democrats' version of Rasmussen. What are the sample sizes? Also, what if someone runs as an Independent? Like Cornel West? Who's to say Maxine Waters doesn't run for the Democratic nom, and win?

I have so many questions.

Please please please let this happen. 82 year old Mad Maxine as the candidate in 2020. With Keith Ellison as her running mate!

Dems surely couldn't let that happen.

[dirks]

Trump will be the Bruce Rauner of 2020.  He was lucky enough to beat a scandaled Democrat. Dems will win the House in 2018 and Govs and Prez and Senate in 2020. 

If Dems are lucky, they can beat Flake and Cruz and win the Senate, but Dems will definately win.

A scandaled Dem - but one with a media and deep state army fanatically committed to her, with a monumental war chest, organization, GOTV effort, a sitting liberal President. With a constant 24/7 anti Trump drumbeat throughout the media elite, with all of the pop culture elites lining up behind her, and with more political experience in general.

She had a lot going for her. And lost

Dems will lose in 2018, and again in 2020 unless they absolutely neuter the violent, SJW, BLM anti cop, pro muslim nutbag wing of their party that has absolutely hijacked it.

I mean it wasn't that long ago that Howard Dean said he still wanted to be the candidate for the guy with the Confederate Flag on his truck. And he was right in saying that.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Trump isn't going to be impeached, but Mike Pence will be the 2020 nominee, so Trump's numbers are irrelevant.