NYT: Trump Asked Comey to End Flynn Investigation

[Suburbia]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Bronz.  Who can unite the country right now?

Someone like John Kasich. Clinton, Obama, Booker, Rubio can't unite America.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

Not to live up to my user name, but Bernie's the most popular politician in the country rn.

[TheSaint250]

Legit question, not a partisan hack-type thing:

Is it considered obstruction of justice if he just asked Comey to stop without doing anything?

[The_Doctor]

Legit question, not a partisan hack-type thing:

Is it considered obstruction of justice if he just asked Comey to stop without doing anything?

Stop what? There was nothing to stop except the investigation.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Legit question, not a partisan hack-type thing:

Is it considered obstruction of justice if he just asked Comey to stop without doing anything?

Actually legally no he would of been fine just unethical but the problem for Cheeto is him firing Comey on top of it does paint it as obstruction of justice

[coloradocowboi]

Legit question, not a partisan hack-type thing:

Is it considered obstruction of justice if he just asked Comey to stop without doing anything?

Probably, because he wasn't asking as a friend, he was asking as the POTUS. If he was using his office to try and stop the investigation, it's more than just an utterance. The memo will lend a lot more clarity though.

[TheSaint250]

Legit question, not a partisan hack-type thing:

Is it considered obstruction of justice if he just asked Comey to stop without doing anything?

Stop what? There was nothing to stop except the investigation.

That's what I meant. Sorry bout that.

[The Other Castro]

Legit question, not a partisan hack-type thing:

Is it considered obstruction of justice if he just asked Comey to stop without doing anything?

The request alone likely qualifies as obstruction of justice, but combined with his actual firing of Comey after the fact would certainly qualify.

[Suburbia]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Hillary Clinton is completely irrelevant to whether Trump told Comey to stop investigating Flynn.

Talking about Clinton is all they have at this point.

I didn't vote for him. I'm just pointing out that her presidency would have been scandal-tarred by now.

[Yank2133]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Hillary Clinton is completely irrelevant to whether Trump told Comey to stop investigating Flynn.

Talking about Clinton is all they have at this point.

I didn't vote for him. I'm just pointing out that her presidency would have been scandal-tarred by now.

Stop with the "bothsides" bullsh**t.

We aren't having this daily chaos if Clinton was in office.

[coloradocowboi]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Hillary Clinton is completely irrelevant to whether Trump told Comey to stop investigating Flynn.

Talking about Clinton is all they have at this point.

I didn't vote for him. I'm just pointing out that her presidency would have been scandal-tarred by now.

Stop with the "bothsides" bullsh**t.

We aren't having this daily chaos if Clinton was office.

Yeah this is getting old "moderates."

GOP extremism is lynching effigies of Obama with signs depicting the n-word.

Democratic extremism is asking for our elections to be free and fair...

[Confused Democrat]

What in the living hell?

https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/864654037471424512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fpolitics%2Fcomments%2F6bh2ke%2Fmegathread_trump_tweets_defense_of_classified%2F

[SteveRogers]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Hillary Clinton is completely irrelevant to whether Trump told Comey to stop investigating Flynn.

Talking about Clinton is all they have at this point.

I didn't vote for him. I'm just pointing out that her presidency would have been scandal-tarred by now.

Bronz, we're discussing whether or not Donald Trump, the sitting president, straight-up committed a federal crime in hist first months of being in office. Hillary has nothing to do with this, and your false equivalence "both candidates were equally flawed" shtick has no relevance to the topic at hand.

[tallguy23]

Watching Fox News compare the  Comey Memo to "Mean Girls" in defense of Trump is making me go:

Fox should stop trying to make fetch happen.

It's not gonna happen.

Touche

[Hindsight was 2020]

What in the living hell?

https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/864654037471424512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fpolitics%2Fcomments%2F6bh2ke%2Fmegathread_trump_tweets_defense_of_classified%2F

Go tuck yourself Carlson

[KingSweden]

Watching Fox News compare the  Comey Memo to "Mean Girls" in defense of Trump is making me go:

Fox should stop trying to make fetch happen.

It's not gonna happen.

Touche

At least, one of my Mean Girls jokes works, in context

[Suburbia]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Hillary Clinton is completely irrelevant to whether Trump told Comey to stop investigating Flynn.

Talking about Clinton is all they have at this point.

I didn't vote for him. I'm just pointing out that her presidency would have been scandal-tarred by now.

Stop with the "bothsides" bullsh**t.

We aren't having this daily chaos if Clinton was in office.

She would have brought Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills to the WH. Come on. It's sad. Had she won, it would have been wise for her to distance herself from them.

[coloradocowboi]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Hillary Clinton is completely irrelevant to whether Trump told Comey to stop investigating Flynn.

Talking about Clinton is all they have at this point.

I didn't vote for him. I'm just pointing out that her presidency would have been scandal-tarred by now.

Stop with the "bothsides" bullsh**t.

We aren't having this daily chaos if Clinton was in office.

She would have brought Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills to the WH. Come on. It's sad. Had she won, it would have been wise for her to distance herself from them.

The point they are making isn't that her WH would have been scandal free--it wouldn't have. It's that she probably wouldn't have leaked our allies secrets to our enemies, tried to end a federal investigation into said enemy's interference in our election, and constantly tweet stupid and crass comments.

[Yank2133]

It's a bad time for America.

Democrats should not be giddy, Hillary Clinton had tons of baggage and a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been slow of legislative accomplishments as well.

America is facing it's consequences.

Hillary Clinton is completely irrelevant to whether Trump told Comey to stop investigating Flynn.

Talking about Clinton is all they have at this point.

I didn't vote for him. I'm just pointing out that her presidency would have been scandal-tarred by now.

Stop with the "bothsides" bullsh**t.

We aren't having this daily chaos if Clinton was in office.

She would have brought Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills to the WH. Come on. It's sad. Had she won, it would have been wise for her to distance herself from them.

The point they are making isn't that her WH would have been scandal free--it wouldn't have. It's that she probably wouldn't have leaked our allies secrets to our enemies, tried to end a federal investigation into said enemy's interference in our election, and constantly tweet stupid and crass comments.

Exactly.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

PS: But are they also covering this story, or just ignoring it altogether ?

the evening nightmare of propaganda is only handling this through "banners" which are not directly part of the shows themselves.

the debunked DNC murder story is for example hannity's lead right now.

Unbelievable !
Why would anyone watch this channel for "news" ?
We have a major national story, and instead, Fox plays like an ostrich (put your head in the sand and ignore everything around you).
There you go ..... instead of "Fox" News, they need to change their official name to "Ostrich News."

People watch Faux (I cannot bring my self to believe the name isn't deliberate on some level) News not in order to be informed, but as a palliative for the cognitive dissonance that comes with being Republican, being conservative, being religious, being a Trump supporter, or just being unable to adapt, while still needing to live in the rapidly changing world we all inhabit.

[coloradocowboi]

PS: But are they also covering this story, or just ignoring it altogether ?

the evening nightmare of propaganda is only handling this through "banners" which are not directly part of the shows themselves.

the debunked DNC murder story is for example hannity's lead right now.

Unbelievable !
Why would anyone watch this channel for "news" ?
We have a major national story, and instead, Fox plays like an ostrich (put your head in the sand and ignore everything around you).
There you go ..... instead of "Fox" News, they need to change their official name to "Ostrich News."

People watch Faux (I cannot bring my self to believe the name isn't deliberate on some level) News not in order to be informed, but as a palliative for the cognitive dissonance that comes with being Republican, being conservative, being religious, being a Trump supporter, or just being unable to adapt, while still needing to live in the rapidly changing world we all inhabit.

YAASSSSSSS! This is the truth my people, and I read a fascinating article today in the Journal of International Communication about how it's pointless to even engage these people. They are lost causes. However, getting people hooked on diverse media early on can be really beneficial to forming those political opinions that later get baked in.

[The_Doctor]

So let me understand this. Mike Flynn is under investigation and is currently facing a grand jury. His counts include not disclosing Russian business work and Turkish work as part of his vetting. He has extensive ties to Russia. The president asked the FBI director to drop the investigation on this man (who almost certainly will be indicted).

How does this work out? After all if Flynn is convicted then I don't see how this doesn't end up bringing down Trump for a clear obstruction of justice.

Am I right on the facts?

[The Other Castro]

So let me understand this. Mike Flynn is under investigation and is currently facing a grand jury. His counts include not disclosing Russian business work and Turkish work as part of his vetting. He has extensive ties to Russia. The president asked the FBI director to drop the investigation on this man (who almost certainly will be indicted).

How does this work out? After all if Flynn is convicted then I don't see how this doesn't end up bringing down Trump for a clear obstruction of justice.

Am I right on the facts?

Bringing Trump down requires impeachment and removal, which requires Republican cooperation in Congress. It's the latter part that seems unlikely in most scenarios.

[Virginiá]

Corey Lewandowski - aka Trump's least scandalous campaign manager - is atm in the WH

and sorry if this is getting old but since it's blowing my mind....

Ironically, as Republicans tried to say all Democrats wanted to do is talk about bathrooms, it is now conservative pundit(s) who only seem to want to talk about dirty bathrooms at penn station when their party's presidency is imploding in the background

[The_Doctor]

So let me understand this. Mike Flynn is under investigation and is currently facing a grand jury. His counts include not disclosing Russian business work and Turkish work as part of his vetting. He has extensive ties to Russia. The president asked the FBI director to drop the investigation on this man (who almost certainly will be indicted).

How does this work out? After all if Flynn is convicted then I don't see how this doesn't end up bringing down Trump for a clear obstruction of justice.

Am I right on the facts?

Bringing Trump down requires impeachment and removal, which requires Republican cooperation in Congress. It's the latter part that seems unlikely in most scenarios.

I'm curious how they spin the whole Trump trying to get a FBI investigation of a compromised NSA with Russian ties killed, yes. That seems sort of the stuff that gets you obliterated as a political party. Comey has the written documents and other memorandums. Trump doesn't. More ever Trump intentionally did this by asking Sessions and Pence to leave the room to talk to Comey.

Needless to say I would not want to defend that for the next one year. Plus the other memorandums Comey wrote.