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« on: May 31, 2017, 01:27:44 PM »

Only Beutler will probably lose in 2018, rest 3 are in safe seats. One of the most progressive states where Sanders destroyed Clinton, should not have almost their entire Democratic congressional leadership as New Democrats. Go & have those in Alabama or Texas !

Only 1 progressive member out of 10 seats in Washington is absolutely not acceptable !

See, this is where I wish Justice Democrats and other similar groups would train their fire. Stop screwing around with red state Democrats that could very easily (and likely) cost us Senate seats, and focus on primarying unfavorable Democrats in safe seats. Booting out the Third Way types could give us much better chances at more progressive legislation by the time we get a federal trifecta again. That is, assuming the progressives that replace them can actually negotiate and not simply obstruct and hamstring the chamber like the HFC.
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Virginiá
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 03:33:16 PM »

Washington had a caucus for delegate allocation which Bernie won with more than 70%. And all the neighbouring states went to Bernie comfortably with Seattle having one of the highest per capita donation.

What are you even talking about? Real ballots went out, and real people voted in that primary. Yes, Bernie overwhelmingly won the caucus, but that is because he had the most enthusiastic base of the two. That is who wins caucuses - the candidate with very fired up & enthusiastic support, and it's also the reason they are a terrible way to choose candidates. It allows a candidate with well below majority (or even plurality) support to win a caucus simply because they had enough people willing to sit through a caucus. Say what you want about WA, but it appears Bernie's actual support there vs Clinton was far less than the landslide he got in the caucus, assuming you maximized the number of participants.

You're right, the primary itself was meaningless as it was the caucus that officially counted, but you can't just ignore the results of the primary, which had almost 600,000 more participants. Quite frankly, it would be a real shame if we continued using caucuses to choose our candidates in the future.
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