Trump approval ratings thread 1.1

[Dr. Arch]

Trump is soaring in the polls!

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President Donald Trump’s personal ratings are also up -- a bit:  47 percent of voters have a favorable opinion of him.

Oh, I see. The polls have it wrong so long as they don't show what you want to see, lmao.

[BudgieForce]

Trump is soaring in the polls!

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President Donald Trump’s personal ratings are also up -- a bit:  47 percent of voters have a favorable opinion of him.

As you said, personal ratings. Personal ratings are not job approval ratings. And going from 44 to 47 is with the MoE.

Fox News:
Approve: 44  (+4)
Disapprove: 50  (-3)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2017/07/07/fox-news-poll-7717.html

Nothing worth tweeting about.

[President Johnson]

I'm curious whether Trump's approval ratings will rise after the G20 summit.

[Person Man]

I'm curious whether Trump's approval ratings will rise after the G20 summit.

How do you think he's doing compared to the orb trip?

[Virginiá]

Gallup (July 7th)

Approve 38% (+1)
Disapprove 56% (-1)

[hopper]

Gallup (July 3rd)

Approve 37% (-2)
Disapprove 57% (+1)

I wonder if he could go down under 35%.

He could, but will take something drastic. Maybe a North Korean missile striking Okinawa? A 2000-point fall in the Dow-Jones average?  Bad news that he can't claim is fake?

Approval of the President has typically been close to the partisan divide since the effect of 9/11 faded -- in good times.  So it has been with Dubya and with Obama. For approval to go below about 45%, something bad has to happen.

There's not much 'squishy' support. Once one gets below 45% approval, one is starting to lose the support of strong partisans. Non-achievement can take one to 40% and incompetence perhaps to 33%. To go below 33% one needs an economic meltdown, a sex scandal, a diplomatic disaster, mishandling of a natural disaster, or a military catastrophe.

Economic meltdown? That would more likely be choices in the Fed. The Federal Reserve is unlikely to start a depression just to defeat a President. A Greek-style economic problem, as when the IMF dictates that America must devalue its currency, raise taxes, cut the money supply,  cut wages, and cut federal spending?  We're nowhere near that. 

Hurricane season is on the way, but most of the States with vulnerability to a hurricane voted Republican in 2016. The "Big One" in California or an eruption of Mount Rainier in Washington? God help us! Obama may have made sure to give quick and generous aid to very conservative communities in the wake of tornadoes irrespective of the way those communities voted. I wouldn't trust President Trump to give any aid to liberal communities that underwent some natural disaster unless on unacceptable terms.

President Trump has gotten away with much so far. So how does he do it?  He has leaned a trick of extremists and tyrants -- violate the sensibilities of opponents and then fault the opponents for expressing their denials, distress, or disgust. At the extreme think of the propaganda of (eventually convicted Nazi war criminal) Julius Streicher against the Jews. He blamed the Jews for practically anything bad even if there was no logical connection, or accused them of horrible deeds contrary to their character. When they complained, he blamed their 'evil' for opposing the falsehoods that Streicher offered as truth.

Many people fall for this. American politicians have typically avoided playing to this, but Donald Trump is a gross abnormality in American political history. He does not play by the rules that such disparate Presidents as Reagan and Obama would.

Well he got elected but he is not very popular.

[hopper]

I guess these things happen when The Media supports everything you do.

The Media doesn't like Trump. Most members of the media are Democrats.

Yes, billionaires who are owners or majority shareholders in media companies are notoriously liberal Democrats.

If the media reports on a team that hasn't scored a run all year as having a lousy offense, do they have a bias against the local team or are they just reporting a disaster in the making? Now apply that to the presidency and get it through your skull that he is a walking dumpster fire on every conceivable level. He is indefensible. For anyone with common sense of a toad that is. Join the club of those who surpass that level.

Your whining about the media is pathetic, tired, and baseless. Grow up.

And that's directed it pretty much a third of the Forum, not just Hopper.

Badger, The only area that Trump has done good in thus far in his Presidency is in the foreign policy arena. He has failed everywhere else in terms of policy. Still I think the media is really biased against him. I did not vote for him just so you know. I'm just calling it as I see it.

[AtorBoltox]

I guess these things happen when The Media supports everything you do.

The Media doesn't like Trump. Most members of the media are Democrats.

Yes, billionaires who are owners or majority shareholders in media companies are notoriously liberal Democrats.

If the media reports on a team that hasn't scored a run all year as having a lousy offense, do they have a bias against the local team or are they just reporting a disaster in the making? Now apply that to the presidency and get it through your skull that he is a walking dumpster fire on every conceivable level. He is indefensible. For anyone with common sense of a toad that is. Join the club of those who surpass that level.

Your whining about the media is pathetic, tired, and baseless. Grow up.

And that's directed it pretty much a third of the Forum, not just Hopper.

Badger, The only area that Trump has done good in thus far in his Presidency is in the foreign policy arena. He has failed everywhere else in terms of policy. Still I think the media is really biased against him. I did not vote for him just so you know. I'm just calling it as I see it.

Stop trying to have your cake and eat it. If Trump is a failure how exactly is the media biased against him?

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I'm curious whether Trump's approval ratings will rise after the G20 summit.

I highly doubt it will effect him in any way. He didn't do anything that really impressed anyone.

[pbrower2a]

I guess these things happen when The Media supports everything you do.

The Media doesn't like Trump. Most members of the media are Democrats.

Yes, billionaires who are owners or majority shareholders in media companies are notoriously liberal Democrats.

If the media reports on a team that hasn't scored a run all year as having a lousy offense, do they have a bias against the local team or are they just reporting a disaster in the making? Now apply that to the presidency and get it through your skull that he is a walking dumpster fire on every conceivable level. He is indefensible. For anyone with common sense of a toad that is. Join the club of those who surpass that level.

Your whining about the media is pathetic, tired, and baseless. Grow up.

And that's directed it pretty much a third of the Forum, not just Hopper.

Badger, The only area that Trump has done good in thus far in his Presidency is in the foreign policy arena. He has failed everywhere else in terms of policy. Still I think the media is really biased against him. I did not vote for him just so you know. I'm just calling it as I see it.

On a major-league baseball team going 35-51 at this point, the team gives unconditional releases to an outfielder with a .226 batting average with five home runs and a starting pitcher with a 4-9 record and a 6.10 ERA. (Both statistics are far below average) so that they can give chances to some hot-shot minor league players who may seem a bit unpolished but can do much better. So the two players cast off blame the local sportswriters for not advocating keeping them because they used to be sort-of-OK.

President Trump exploited the lust of journalists for something new and exciting in American politics and now he disappoints the same journalists with erratic behavior and with under-achievement. Maybe the media have some fault for the rise of Donald Trump because he was good for news copy -- but now something else matters.

But we are stuck with someone objectively awful.

[Virginiá]

Gallup (July 8th)

Approve 39% (+1)
Disapprove 56% (-/-)

[pbrower2a]

I have been polled, so expect a poll from Michigan this week. 

[The Other Castro]

I have been polled, so expect a poll from Michigan this week. 

Just presidential approval, or did you get anything for Senate or Gov?

[pbrower2a]

I have been polled, so expect a poll from Michigan this week. 

Just presidential approval, or did you get anything for Senate or Gov?

Both -- and Trump's effort to undo Obamacare.

[Virginiá]

Gallup (July 9th)

Approve 39% (-/-)
Disapprove 56% (-/-)

[Virginiá]

Gallup (July 10th)

Approve 40% (+1)
Disapprove 55% (-1)

[Yank2133]

Trump hit 40% today. It feels he hasn't hit that mark since May.

[Virginiá]

Trump hit 40% today. It feels he hasn't hit that mark since May.

Nope he did hit 40% on June 28th, but unfortunately for him this Don Jr revelation is probably going to drag him right back down. That is probably why it was being reported that he was furious when it hit the wire - not because of the consequences so much, but because the Russia stuff was sucking up yet another media cycle again, and just as things started to (sort of) stabilize. Whatever 'stabilize' even means anymore

So far I am convinced that his new baseline is the high 30s, and most of what we will see is his numbers bouncing around below and above it. If that is the case, hitting 40% is nothing but noise.

[Virginiá]

Gallup (July 11th)

Approve 40% (-/-)
Disapprove 55% (-/-)

[GeorgiaModerate]

Rasmussen daily, July 14: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul14

Approve 43% (27% strongly)
Disapprove 57% (48% strongly)

[Ronnie]

Rasmussen daily, July 14: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul14

Approve 43% (27% strongly)
Disapprove 57% (48% strongly)

Poor Don.  Now even his junk propaganda pollster has him significantly in the red.

[Gass3268]

Gallup

39% Approve (-1)
55% Disapprove (-/+)

[Technocracy Timmy]

8 full weeks now he's been at 39% according to the 538 average.

[Person Man]

Rasmussen daily, July 14: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul14

Approve 43% (27% strongly)
Disapprove 57% (48% strongly)

Poor Don.  Now even his junk propaganda pollster has him significantly in the red.

By strongly disapprove, you mean never vote for?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Rasmussen daily, July 14: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul14

Approve 43% (27% strongly)
Disapprove 57% (48% strongly)

Poor Don.  Now even his junk propaganda pollster has him significantly in the red.

By strongly disapprove, you mean never vote for?

Strongly approve and strongly disapprove are two of the options in their polls.  How the respondents define those is up to them.   For the trend on these daily polls, see also http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history