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« Reply #375 on: June 15, 2017, 10:17:31 AM »


Yeah, but it's with the AP.
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« Reply #376 on: June 15, 2017, 10:48:26 AM »



Not likely with TX but if he keeps sliding this might be the map.
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« Reply #377 on: June 15, 2017, 11:34:29 AM »



Not likely with TX but if he keeps sliding this might be the map.

Could be, but I have a hard time Texas flip before Missouri, or even Montana. One thing about Montana's voting estate tend to swing harder than the national Norm against unpopular incumbents or their parties. Consider how Clinton carried it in 92 and Obama came darn close in 2008, only for the state to swing hard hard against them in the subsequent election.
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« Reply #378 on: June 15, 2017, 11:49:35 AM »

^ Montana is too entrenched with libertarians/conservatives to flip. That and the lack of population and big pop cities is why I still have it as R. For Missouri, HC got only 38.14% in 2016 so it is long gone for any Dem for a considerable period of time, even in a landslide. It votes like Appalachia, essentially.
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« Reply #379 on: June 15, 2017, 12:04:17 PM »

^ Montana is too entrenched with libertarians/conservatives to flip. That and the lack of population and big pop cities is why I still have it as R. For Missouri, HC got only 38.14% in 2016 so it is long gone for any Dem for a considerable period of time, even in a landslide. It votes like Appalachia, essentially.

There are big cities there still and I still think Missouri can pull an Indiana. Kansas City is becoming a hip young place, but its growing slowly and St.Louis is still slowly dying. So, I do see where you are coming from...
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« Reply #380 on: June 15, 2017, 12:09:35 PM »

^ Montana is too entrenched with libertarians/conservatives to flip. That and the lack of population and big pop cities is why I still have it as R.

The most populated county in MT votes heavily R in presidential races (or at least roughly 5 points to the right of the state). But yes, MT is less likely to flip than TX in 2020. And MO and IN aren't going to flip either, for that matter.
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« Reply #381 on: June 15, 2017, 12:11:17 PM »

How low can it go? (Very unlikely but Watergate Low)
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« Reply #382 on: June 15, 2017, 12:13:13 PM »

Gallup (June 14th)

Approve 38% (+2)
Disapprove 57% (-2)
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« Reply #383 on: June 15, 2017, 12:16:11 PM »

Yeah. Trump, if I recall correctly, is still slightly popular in Montana. However, a lot can happen over the next 3 years. I'd imagine Montana would be difficult to flip for any Democrat in 2020 at this stage, but if a recession hits (depending on the size of it) then Trump should worry.
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« Reply #384 on: June 15, 2017, 12:17:19 PM »

Yeah. Trump, if I recall correctly, is still slightly popular in Montana. However, a lot can happen over the next 3 years. I'd imagine Montana would be difficult to flip for any Democrat in 2020 at this stage, but if a recession hits (depending on the size of it) then Trump should worry.

The economy already seems to be slowing down again.  Trumpcession.
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« Reply #385 on: June 15, 2017, 12:18:38 PM »

^ Montana is too entrenched with libertarians/conservatives to flip. That and the lack of population and big pop cities is why I still have it as R. For Missouri, HC got only 38.14% in 2016 so it is long gone for any Dem for a considerable period of time, even in a landslide. It votes like Appalachia, essentially.

In 2004, Bush beat Kerry in MT 59.1% - 38.6%. Granted, Bush did win the PV nationally that year, but it still shows that that margin doesn't necessarily preclude a future Democratic win there (or a narrow loss)
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« Reply #386 on: June 15, 2017, 12:20:36 PM »

One thing I've noticed is Trump's approval goes through cycles:

1) He does something stupid
2) Approvals drop and Disapprovals go up
3) After a couple days the reverse happens, approval up and disapprovals down
4) He then plateaus for a while, but it never comes all the way back down to where the last big jump started.

Meaning he is permanently losing a few percentages of people every time he does something stupid.
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« Reply #387 on: June 15, 2017, 12:47:47 PM »

Meaning he is permanently losing a few percentages of people every time he does something stupid.
Well, if that was true he would have hit 0% approval in february. I do see your point and think it is generally true, but it should probably be that he loses a fraction of a percent more or less permanently whenever he does something stupid.

However, there is a hardcore base that will likely stick with him even if he rapes a kid on live TV.
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« Reply #388 on: June 15, 2017, 12:57:12 PM »


Of course RCP isn't including it in their average. Tongue
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« Reply #389 on: June 16, 2017, 10:00:19 AM »

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« Reply #390 on: June 16, 2017, 10:43:47 AM »

^ Montana is too entrenched with libertarians/conservatives to flip. That and the lack of population and big pop cities is why I still have it as R. For Missouri, HC got only 38.14% in 2016 so it is long gone for any Dem for a considerable period of time, even in a landslide. It votes like Appalachia, essentially.

In 2004, Bush beat Kerry in MT 59.1% - 38.6%. Granted, Bush did win the PV nationally that year, but it still shows that that margin doesn't necessarily preclude a future Democratic win there (or a narrow loss)

And in 2008 Obama lost Missouri by a fraction of a percent, and Montana buy something like 3%. If we assume states are going to maintain their Trump level voting patterns, this would be a valid argument. It's not impossible to say that Trump presents something of a realignment, but a wiser bet is that he's a general voting aberration. Yes, Missouri has been trending away from democrats for the last 20 years, where is Texas has been trending towards them for at least the last several, but it is way too early to say Texas is more ready to flip then Missouri.

Likewise, wow Texas hasn't shown much of proclivity to voting Democratic in the last 25 years, Montana in that. Has even at the federal level comma plus a notable Auntie incumbent swing. Of course Republicans are favored there, but it's at least even if not better chance than Texas to flip
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« Reply #391 on: June 16, 2017, 11:24:49 AM »

My question: is the AP's 64% disapproval and 25% disapproval among Republicans a leading indicator or an outlier? He's held steady at 55% disapprove, 38% approve the last 10 days.
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« Reply #392 on: June 16, 2017, 12:31:44 PM »

Gallup (June 15th)

Approve 38% (-/-)
Disapprove 57% (-/-)
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« Reply #393 on: June 16, 2017, 01:01:38 PM »

FWIW, trump is at 50% approval in rasmussen, which was showing him underwater recently by 10-12 points.
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« Reply #394 on: June 16, 2017, 01:11:22 PM »

FWIW, trump is at 50% approval in rasmussen, which was showing him underwater recently by 10-12 points.

Rassy is and always will be a joke polling company. No polling is better than Rassy.
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« Reply #395 on: June 16, 2017, 01:12:36 PM »

FWIW, trump is at 50% approval in rasmussen, which was showing him underwater recently by 10-12 points.

Rassy is and always will be a joke polling company. No polling is better than Rassy.

While I agree, they did nail the 2016 election with their clintn +2 final poll.

Then again, approval polls =! election polls.
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« Reply #396 on: June 16, 2017, 01:24:54 PM »

Looks like Trump rarely dips below 45% approval in Rasmussen polls, and had him in the upper 50s at his inauguration.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jun16

He's had a very good 3 days in Rasmussen's samples.
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« Reply #397 on: June 16, 2017, 01:26:40 PM »

West Virginia still holding strong for Trump

Trump approval: 62/31
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« Reply #398 on: June 16, 2017, 02:18:10 PM »

Trump just cited the sh**tty lulzmussen poll that had him at 50% approval in one of his tweets today.
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« Reply #399 on: June 16, 2017, 02:20:12 PM »

Trump just cited the sh**tty lulzmussen poll that had him at 50% approval in one of his tweets today.

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