Trump approval ratings thread 1.1

[Mr. Smith]

I feel most Republicans will be standing by him. A lot of confressmen are condemning him because they're afraid of angering the Democrats. Most Republicans feel that the media whitewashing Antifa is worse than Trump not "specifically" calling out white supremacists. A lot of Democrats say that their side of the story is legitimized by what they stand for and the fact that the only death in the rally was one of them.

It's not those types (which are gonna hold out to the bitter end), it's the Indies, Moderates, Not-so-Ideological types that are critical to keep hold of.

They are the ones who ensured Trump would have barely over 50% after he just won (and the ones who held their nose just because he was new and Hillary wasn't), they are the ones who have ensured he'd be at 44% by inauguration, and they are the ones who got his numbers down to where they are now.

Congresscritters aren't condemning him for the sake of appeasing Democrats, they're doing it to appear reasonable to those not so entrenched.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

After Trump's response to Charlottesville, I predict that he'll go below 35% in Gallup sometime in the coming week.

I dunno...depends on what portion of that 35% supports the Neo-nazis.

There aren't more than about 10K members of Klan groups and 10K members of neo-Nazi groups, with some significant overlaps.

I don't know if there would be a lot of crossover between the KKK and Neo Nazi groups. The South has the most KKK members and the South is the most hawkish nationalistic part of the country.  I would bet a lot of KKK members have a grandfather who fought in WW2 against the Nazis. That chest thumping militarism would not be very supportive of one of America's enemies.

[Tekken_Guy]

I feel most Republicans will be standing by him. A lot of confressmen are condemning him because they're afraid of angering the Democrats. Most Republicans feel that the media whitewashing Antifa is worse than Trump not "specifically" calling out white supremacists. A lot of Democrats say that their side of the story is legitimized by what they stand for and the fact that the only death in the rally was one of them.

It's not those types (which are gonna hold out to the bitter end), it's the Indies, Moderates, Not-so-Ideological types that are critical to keep hold of.

They are the ones who ensured Trump would have barely over 50% after he just won (and the ones who held their nose just because he was new and Hillary wasn't), they are the ones who have ensured he'd be at 44% by inauguration, and they are the ones who got his numbers down to where they are now.

Congresscritters aren't condemning him for the sake of appeasing Democrats, they're doing it to appear reasonable to those not so entrenched.

I don't think we'll find out until the polls come out which side the moderates take.

[pbrower2a]

After Trump's response to Charlottesville, I predict that he'll go below 35% in Gallup sometime in the coming week.

I dunno...depends on what portion of that 35% supports the Neo-nazis.

As late as the 1990s, when there were WWII vets in the Klan in large numbers, Nazi allusions were unwelcome in the Klan. Although Nazis and Klansmen are fascists with similar objects of hatred (including blacks and Jews), WWII vets in the Klan had no place for Nazism.

That is over. There aren't enough WWII vets to keep Klan groups from adopting Nazi  ideological traits, including the use of the word "Aryan".  

There aren't more than about 10K members of Klan groups and 10K members of neo-Nazi groups, with some significant overlaps.

I don't know if there would be a lot of crossover between the KKK and Neo Nazi groups. The South has the most KKK members and the South is the most hawkish nationalistic part of the country.  I would bet a lot of KKK members have a grandfather who fought in WW2 against the Nazis. That chest thumping militarism would not be very supportive of one of America's enemies.

The Klan is no longer so firmly Southern. For people who believe its racist agenda, Nazism may have been objectionable more as something exotic (German!) or anti-American. But this said, Nazism is no longer German (Nazi ideology, slogans, and symbols are illegal in Germany. Military museums that show a WWII aircraft mute the swastika, and model aircraft for sale in Germany do not have swastika decals.  But I have seen Confederate flags well to the north of the Mason-Dixon Line (and not associated with re-enacting the Civil War)... and I have seen people try to equate Abraham Lincoln with Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin. 

People with so cranky an ideology as Ku Kluxism no longer care that their late grandfather fought Hitler. Nazi racism is close to Klan racism, even down to Holocaust denial. Does anyone want to find out whether "Jewish Lives Matter" in a Klan-dominated America? There are just too many blacks to process through gas chambers; after all, the Klan would be content with the restoration of race-based slavery. If one has nothing more to be proud of than being white, then the Klan or neo-Nazism just might be of interest. Proud to be white? I would have had no qualms about marrying and having children by a Filipina or Vietnamese wife and having children who can do partial differential equations. Proud of "white culture"? Someone who knows Michelangelo, J S Bach, and Dostoevsky well enough has far more to be proud of than "whiteness".

The Klan and neo-Nazis would probably murder me for my ridicule of them.

[BudgieForce]

And there goes Rasmussen:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
Rasmussen Daily Tracking
Approve - 43%(-2)
Disapprove - 55%(+2)

[pbrower2a]

Social unrest is not good for approval of a political leader. We shall see how this goes in statewide polling, paucity of which as we have.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Gallup 8/14

61% Disapprove
34% Approve

After Trump's response to Charlottesville, I predict that he'll go below 35% in Gallup sometime in the coming week.

Admittedly, it was an easy prediction.

[Yank2133]

Gallup 8/14

61% Disapprove
34% Approve

Not surprised.

The response to Charlottesville was atrocious. Moral leadership is the one thing everyone regardless of their political beliefs expect from the President of the United States. And Trump failed to do that spectacularly.

[PoliticalShelter]

Is this the first time Trump's disapproval rating has hit above 60% during his presidency?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Is this the first time Trump's disapproval rating has hit above 60% during his presidency?

It's the highest for Gallup, yes.  He's been over 60 in some other polls, I believe.

[Brittain33]

Sweet sassy molassy!

[progressive85]

Him being at 61% is no surprise.  60% was his disapproval rating BEFORE the election.  I think the first year "give him a chance and let's see what he does" honeymoon is over.  People have seen quite enough to form a permanent opinion of him.

[kyc0705]

Gallup 8/14

61% Disapprove
34% Approve

[Santander]

At this point, even I disapprove.

[GeorgiaModerate]

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[Middle-aged Europe]

At this point, even I disapprove.

[Daniel909012]

In two days it will be the same nothing strange

[BudgieForce]

In two days it will be the same nothing strange

Thats not the point. Trump's approvals stay steady, drop, slightly recover then stay steady again. He was averaging low 40s in Gallup a couple of months ago, now he's averaging mid to high 30s.

[BlueSwan]

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Donald Trump is the greatest ever at getting past 60%. It's unbelievable.

[The Other Castro]

At this point, even I disapprove.

When you've lost Santander, you've lost real America.

[TheSaint250]

At this point, even I disapprove.

I've been this way for a month or two now.

#SomeOtherRepublican2020

[windjammer]

At this point, even I disapprove.

May I ask why?

[Dr. Arch]

At this point, even I disapprove.

May I ask why?

There are too many reasons, imo. I think it's easier to ask him when xD

[KingSweden]

At this point, even I disapprove.

Appropriate deployment of Nuclear Elmo right hete

[Santander]

At this point, even I disapprove.

May I ask why?

Ultimately, it is for the same reason I turned on Obama after Orlando - the sheer insensitivity of his response was enough to push me over the edge and accept the tides that had been turning in my head for a while now. I still believe he has been treated unfairly by the media, and I am willing to be supportive of him where I agree, but I don't feel any need to actively defend someone who obviously doesn't care about me, or anyone but himself, for that matter.