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Mr. Smith
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« on: August 13, 2017, 10:36:21 PM »

I feel most Republicans will be standing by him. A lot of confressmen are condemning him because they're afraid of angering the Democrats. Most Republicans feel that the media whitewashing Antifa is worse than Trump not "specifically" calling out white supremacists. A lot of Democrats say that their side of the story is legitimized by what they stand for and the fact that the only death in the rally was one of them.

It's not those types (which are gonna hold out to the bitter end), it's the Indies, Moderates, Not-so-Ideological types that are critical to keep hold of.

They are the ones who ensured Trump would have barely over 50% after he just won (and the ones who held their nose just because he was new and Hillary wasn't), they are the ones who have ensured he'd be at 44% by inauguration, and they are the ones who got his numbers down to where they are now.

Congresscritters aren't condemning him for the sake of appeasing Democrats, they're doing it to appear reasonable to those not so entrenched.

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 02:30:48 AM »

Oh I understand his amount of room in CA. I was just asking why is his approval from the Republicans so low.

Pretty much anywhere where there is a clear and overwhelming majority party, the minority party is going to skew in its direction from a relative standpoint. Democrats in Oklahoma are going to be more conservative as a whole than Democrats nationally; Republicans in California will be more liberal. I've always assumed that this is the collective manifestation of the most basic of political survival mechanisms.

Utah Democrats say hi.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2017, 10:26:35 PM »

Fun fact- in January 1983, Ronald Reagan's approval rating was 35%. He went on to come within 10,000 votes of winning every single electoral vote.

Are you suggesting Trump will make a comeback, or that this is all stupid because he could just as easily make a comeback before 2020.

In either case, I'd argue that there are fundamental differences between Reagan and Trump, ones that seem to prevent Donald from actually being able to repair his image. So far Trump just keeps making things worse, and without any ability to discipline himself and listen to strategists, he'll never be able to recover significantly. It takes effort and doing the right things to win people back, and Trump's freewheeling "let Trump be Trump" nature is exactly what has led to this decline.

Also, he's offended many Americans in ways that simply can't be repaired easily. It's why at a time of a relatively stable economy, he is in the dumps like this.

Another idea (which I think is the implication):  The Democratic Party manages to screw-up again and nominate a candidate even less palatable than Trump. Just enough for Trump and his rallies and the GOP's absurdly good use of short-term wedge issues to pull it off.

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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2017, 10:39:29 PM »

Gallup (September 16th)

Approve 38% (+2)
Disapprove 57% (-2)

Ann Coulter is not as big of a deal as she things she is. Trump's base will fall in line with whatever he says. If needed they will change Immigration reform instead of build the wall. They don't have a strong ideological compass unlike the progressive left.

Sorry, but no. Otherwise Hillary would've won '08 primaries.

Otherwise, more critical voices would've called out against the failure of Gitmo closure, or the stimulus which was too small, etc.

Howard Dean the DLC Stooge who just happened to be right about Iraq wouldn't have gained any traction in '04.

Bill would've at least received a primary challenge in '96 too.

No, the left went along with these blatantly conservative leads just because they had a (D) next to them.
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