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Lord Admirale
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« on: May 20, 2017, 11:09:21 AM »

If he's alive. 20%.

It will go to either Booker, Gillibrand, Warren, or Harris.
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 12:53:49 PM »

Sanders will turn 79 a month after election day in 2020. By the time his first term would end in January, 2025, he'll be 83 years old. If he's a two-termer, he'll exit office just after his 87th birthday.

The human body really starts to go to pieces after a certain point, and a president who will be in his 80s most of his term is really asking for America to have to get very familiar with a lot of end-of-life illnesses.
I concur with this. Taking office, Sanders would be older than Reagan when he RETIRED in 1989. Not to mention, Reagan was falling apart by then.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 07:31:57 PM »

He's probably not going to be a 2 termer but age is a very subjective thing, FDR died in his office at 63, lost the movement of his legs etc but was still kicking ass in the 1940's !
FDR and Bernie Sanders aren't even comparable. President Roosevelt was a formidable politician, not to mention he was relatively young and very charismatic when he was elected President. On top of that, the U.S. was in the worst economic situation in history, and FDR appealed to both the left and the right in 1932. Sanders? Not so much. I've heard the comparison of FDR and Sanders multiple times, and really, it's a bunch of malarkey.

As for their health, FDR's polio barely affected him, plus the press managed to keep it secret. It was the classic presidential aging combined with the largest war in history that caused his health to go under. 99% sure Sanders is not immune to presidential aging.

Hillary was younger than Bernie & in much worse shape, could barely campaign continously (needed rests, fewer stops, this health condition or that).

You have a good point here, but we don't know how Sanders will be when he's two years shy of being eighty.

There is barely a prominent Democrat who can keep up with Bernie even now with his ridiculous schedule & rallies - As a matter of fact most young journalists in their 20's & 30's were struggling to keep pace with him (he was doing 6-7 rallies a day sometimes in even 3-4 different states).

And he did 14 rallies in 12 states for Hillary in the last 5-6 days running coast to coast. If he is in around that kind of health, that he can travel like mad & campaign, damn right he will run! Jimmy Carter is 92 & is in decent health !

This is a bit subjective. There were no substantial Democratic candidates in 2016 besides him and Hillary. I can guarantee Booker, Gillibrand, and Cuomo could have the power to do more than that if they choose to do so. I'd like to see a source on these claims. Also, Carter's health is irrelevant. He hasn't been in elected office in nearly four decades.


And Reagan had Alzheimer's right which is why he started to decline? But he still got more stuff than any Republican President in history for the "Conservative ideology". As a matter of fact, FDR & Reagan are the 2 most successful (atleast for their parties) & transformative presidents who brought a re-alignment & both were pretty old compared to their times !

Reagan had Alzheimer's at the end of his term when he was 77, one year younger than Sanders if he were to take office in 2020. You keep using these presidents who were decades younger than Sanders in 2020 who had health problems at the ends of their presidencies. There's a lot of holes in this argument.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 02:24:51 PM »

Sanders will turn 79 a month after election day in 2020. By the time his first term would end in January, 2025, he'll be 83 years old. If he's a two-termer, he'll exit office just after his 87th birthday.

The human body really starts to go to pieces after a certain point, and a president who will be in his 80s most of his term is really asking for America to have to get very familiar with a lot of end-of-life illnesses.

Nobody cares...I'd rather have Bernie croak in office than trust a DLC stiff. If anything...Bernie dying might help in getting legislation passed...much like LBJ exploited JFK's death in ramming though a ton of legislation.

Him dead in office isn't the worst case scenario. Him going through a lengthy, debilitating, illness that prevents him from handling the duties of state is.

Yes, the 25th Amendment exists, but any attempt to use it will be denounced as a coup, especially if Sanders isn't himself ready to relinquish the reins.

If Bernie can last as long as Lincoln...then he will have accomplished alot. Bernie actually inspires the everyday person to get off their ass and fight for certain issues.
His plan to drastically expand welfare says otherwise...

I'm all for reforming welfare, but we need to do it in the way Bill Clinton reformed welfare.
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